Matthew Le God

Man Utd are bigger than Darlington. Happy? Now answer my questions.

32k 7k on Kingland 3k on Chapel 3k on Northam = 45k As I said "maybe more", so could be an extra 3k you talked about (split over the three stands) taking it to 48k.

See my three questions above.

I admitted from those pictures it is hard to tell. It gives you an idea though, and from that I think the Saints plan looks bigger. "Pretty sure" based on what? These plans by Saints weren't done in 2001, how would Cowen or Lowe know what Cortese's architect (probably AFL) could create? The Itchen may be restricted, but in theory why couldn't you put a third tier on the Kingsland? Brighton aren't expanding to 40k, they are expanding eventually to 30k.

As I said earlier, from the admittedly poor internal view it looks to be around 45k (maybe more). But it hard to tell as we both admit.

The reason for lower attendances this season can mainly be put down to being in the 2nd tier. Despite that, a 26,419 average in the 2nd tier is very good - there aren't many English clubs capable of that. Next season the JCL's will return for games in the world's highest profile sporting league.

I'm saying the Saints expansion (from the relatively poor internal views we have at the moment) looks significantly bigger than the 8,250 expansion of the Amex. That would take the total capacity far beyond merely 40,000.

We didn't average below 30,600 whilst in the Premier League at St Mary's - including the year we came 20th and were terrible to watch! All with the unambitious, and lack of investment from Rupert Lowe in the team. What makes you think it will be 28,000 now?

The 8,250 seats Brighton are adding to their stadium don't take up much room, the Saints picture look more substantial in size. If you bothered to read the context of the post, Kraken and I were discussing how big the Saints drawings made the stadium. I was showing him what 8,250 seats looks like when added to an existing stadium, using Brighton as an example. Those 8,250 seats at the Amex compared to the Saints drawings look relatively small.

This is what adding 8,250 seats to Brighton's Amex Stadium looks like.... http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/211717-amex-stadium-expanding/ Saints' plans look a lot more substantial than that.

Mr Kraken, I think you've said before you can see a 40k stadium for Saints at some point in the future. It is hard to tell as you can't see inside the stadium clearly, but what do you think the images look like in terms of capacity? Kingsland, Northam and Chapel all have been expanded, so I would think there is more than just 8k seats added. Those images look more like 45k (possibly more).

Nothing currently on the council's planning website for the stadium... http://publicaccess.southampton.gov.uk/PublicAccess/propdb/property/property_history_summary.aspx?blpukeyval=002MC5OZBU000&lpikeyval=00253AOZLI000&module=P3&historymodule=DC

Do you think these proposals have "character"?

Can someone put the video of just the bit about the stadium on Youtube please?

Wolves managed to knock down an entire stand in May and had people watching games in the lower tier of the new stand in September of the same year whilst work progressed on finishing the upper tier and rest of the stand.

Above average.

The outside... All looks a lot more professional than ever before.

Yes

Players back in training on the 28th June, Nigel Adkins says he would like to think there will one or two additions before that date (said with a huge grin on his face). So the next 10 days will be interesting...

Lennon and Adkins pretty much confirmed the bids went in.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/pompey-s-2012-13-fixtures-south-coast-derby-first-up-1-3962693 "Pompey will start their League One campaign with a mouthwatering south coast derby clash against Bournemouth."

Ryan Babel... http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/06/18/southampton-keen-on-former-liverpool-flop-ryan-babel/

It is random, so no-one else will.

Yep, things have moved on a long way in the 11 years since 2001 when the current ones were installed. For a start it will be in HD.