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Yeah, would depend on the price and I don’t think it’ll happen but, playing devils advocate, I wonder if Villa still owe us money on him. I guess possibly do a deal around that but honestly can’t see it.

No, but we do have a thread discussing Forest and Lingard. Maybe try that instead?

We also need a fullback. I know it's completely irrelevant to the discussion but you started it.

He's been on his way for the last week but is stuck in Dover. Club is hopeful he'll make it for start of the season.

Athletic reporting that James McAtee could be allowed to leave on loan. We're one of a few clubs said to be interested.

That seems a bit harsh on a lad who was only just 18 when the season started last year. I'd be concerned if he was all we brought in up front but doesn't sound like that's the case. Arguably he's got better stats than Liam Delap and at least equivalent to Sesko, both of which have been mooted as decent signings.

When Smallbone first made his debut I had my doubts - looked a little lightweight but he seems to have improved in that regard and shows a good deal of talent and vision. Definitely needs to be playing regularly so I think a loan to the right club would be a good thing. Really hope it works out cos the lad hasn't had it easy over the last couple of years and think he could be a decent player for us.

Fuck me! This is a load of old guff about Forest and Lingard. I really couldn’t give a shit.

Don't know anything about the lad but if it's alongside another new striker then seems like it could be a decent bit of business. His stats are very similar to Sesko, who seems to be quite highly rated. Pretty similar goal return per minutes played plus he's in a harder league than the Austrian one and for a team that doesn't piss all over the opposition.

I would build a new house in an Art Deco cinema style and get the build filmed for Grand Designs. It would be the most boring episode ever. Kevin Bloody McCloud would whine and lament every potential problem and I would spew money at it like a 16 year old vomits after 5 pints of cider and black. Take that you miserable, pretentious prick!

Sometimes you just have to applaud a post so direct and to the point.

Ah, ok. To be honest I hadn’t heard of him till tonight. He seems alright but big gamble for that price

Here’s a fantasy type poser, Cornet or Karlsson? Cornet probably slightly more expensive and definitely more in wages but offers more in versatility and can definitely score goals in the premier league. Karlsson cheaper and more of a risk but being very right footed means he would fit into that left number 10 role better than Cornet. Personally I’d edge towards Cornet but I think the club would see Karlsson as fitting into the system better.

Agree that it’s not something we’ll be interested in but the whole attitude thing narks me off. No one has a clue what these players are like in real life. Wouldn’t really be bothered about the alleged attitude upsetting the squad dynamics either, it’s not a dynamic that works most of the time and is one of the things that needs to be fixed.

Ralph Rangnik compared him to Kevin de Bruyne less than a year ago. His problems have been injury related and that’s knocked him back a bit

Bloke at work is a Palace fan and he reckons they might go 3 at the back next season.

Tend to agree. He doesn’t appear to have that strikers instinct. Neither does Che but at least compensates in other areas and does chip in with a few goals. Adam Armstrong doesn’t really contribute much at all. Shame as I thought Armstrong might do well this season as well but I doubt it now.

Cornet Baumgartner Kalajdzic Issa Kaboure Colwill Cornet mainly out wide but can play up front and wingback so good versatility and pace there. Baumgartner is another wide option and mainly plays on the left. Got a good goal scoring record too. Kalajdzic again has a good goal return and his height gives us more options. Kaboure looks a decent option at right back, pace and good defensively too. Colwill looks quality and would give us a bit of composure at the back and good range of passing. Would have had either Broja or Delap but think both ships have sailed.

No, I did some YouTube scouting last night and wasn’t overly impressed.

I don't think so because I believe, and I could be wrong on this, that you can't actually be relegated before the season starts.

And wingback, and up front. Proper upgrade on Redmond and Djenepo, gives us some versatility and can definitely score goals. What's not to like?

I'll agree that there's a correlation between where you finish and the amount you spend generally, however, your original point was concerning record transfers and that's not the same thing. Brighton and Palace have both done really well recently and haven't chosen to spend massively on individual players but instead have improved the squad. For example, it's better to spend 20 million each on two players than 40 million on one player. That's the point I was making - that there's better value in looking at younger, cheaper players with potential than to look at more experienced and more expensive players (which in most cases the player doesn't want to join anyway because they have better options).

Which kind of makes the point that spending more doesn't make as much difference as people think it does. In fact I think the correlation between spending more and the value you get from that player widens the more you spend. Not always, of course, but I'm guessing at least some of these clubs regret spending so much on: Villa - Buendia 33M B'mouth - Lerma 25M Palace - Benteke 27M Everton - Siggurdson 45M Fulham - Anguissa 27M Leeds - Rodrigo 27M West Ham - Haller 45M Wolves - Silva 35.6M I'll admit that's a bit off topic but worth pointing out.

Not sure why you're fixated on 25M - it's not the reported size of the bid for Broja. Fact is you're making out that only Saints have a problem with spending that much on a player but it's simply not the case - we're one of eight clubs that have never spent that much (30M) on a single player. By all means complain and wish we were spending that sort of money but don't make out it's unique to us because clearly it isn't. Situation is far more nuanced than just spending the money anyway. Lets say we have 30M and are prepared to use it on the right player - what does that get you? It should get a little more than just potential, it should get both potential and a bit of experience. Not the finished article but certainly less risky than the academy prospects we've been looking at. All good so far. Player is going to be in that 24-26 age group more than likely, so approaching his peak and with a good resale value. All still great. Problem is that player is not going to be looking at us as a step up - they'll probably be trying to get clubs that offer european football and much closer to the champions league. They're not going to be sold on mid table consolidation. I actually agree with you that West Ham would be the better option for Broja at this stage of his career which means that this isn't just about money. Just a hunch but I wouldn't be surprised if we were happy to go to something like 25M, the problem is we're competing against clubs that can offer more than we can (in footballing terms).

Except that the bid is supposed to be 35M euros, so almost 30M Sterling. That beats the club record transfer fee for 40% of premier league clubs. Apart from that, spot on.