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Burley proved you can take over a team in 13th, spend £10m over 2 years, then leave with the team in 12th. Burnley got promoted spending f**k all on a very tight-knit squad. Morale of the story - Money is almost completely insignificant when compared to appointing the right manager.

Ok, I'll spell this out as clearly as I can. IF we were to sell DMG for £1m we COULD use the money to buy Jan Paul Saeijs for £500k AND two strikers LIKE Cox, Lambert or Beckford for £200k each from the lower leagues. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE EXACT PLAYERS The bit's in bold are just retarded. How can you conclusively say that we could never find a player from the lower leagues who could outscore McG? Also, how does repeatedly stating that DMG has improved recently and that I hope he stays qualify me as a DMG hater. Why aim that stupid comment at me and not the dosen or so posters on this thread claiming he is sh*te. I'm not A Saga lover either. I think he is a decent player, but needs to move on for the sake of his own career, same as Skacel. Saga will score for fun in a decent side, and isn't in the Polish NT because he's sleeping with the manager.

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Not good for McLaren. Nelsinho again... Good to see Red Bull back on the pace.

Not slagging him off, but I can see both sides of this argument. I do think he can be a decent player for us next season and score a few decent goals. I can also really don't think he is all that special and £1m could be better spent on other players. I we had £1m to spend on players would you spend it on DMG or Saeijs and two decent strikers from lower leagues, LIKE Cox, Lambert or Beckford

In the first part of that post I said similar strikers for a similar price. I'm sure the price of these exact players has gone up since they started scoring, but I'm equally sure there are more out there. I've no idea who they are, but who'd heard of any of those players listed 2 years ago.

This show seriously needs a decent full time host. Used to be hilarious with Angus Deayton hosting, and at times still is, but most of the guest hosts are just cringeworthy. They just look so uncomfortable reading the jokes off the auto-que. Anyone else watch it?

Not really what I was getting at. My point is you can pick a gem, even in the Prem, for less than £1m. If we were to sell DMG we could buy half the 25 goal a season L1 strikers listed above, or at least similar players for the same prices. The players listed above sold for large amounts of cash because they were hugely successful in the Prem. DMG has thus far been average in CCC. Nobody is ever going to get £7m for him. For £1m we could buy Beckford, Cox and Lambert, who netted 85 goals between them last year and still have enough cash left for Jan Paul Saeijs.

Playing in a better team, but against much better teams with better defenders and against top goalies. On top of that those players probably spent half as long on the pitch as DMG did last year. As a side note, other than Crouchie and Ships, we didn't spend more than £1m on any of those players.

I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking. Jet fuel?

For your first point I agree, we can't sell the DMGs and Lallanas then replace them with cheap gash. I would argue though a decent manager (whether that's Wotte or not is another thread) would be able to find a half decent player for £1m. Regarding your second point, I was including the loan spells he had in L1 over the last couple of year. 18 at Port Vale, 7 at Notts Co, 12 at Bournemouth. Yes CCC is a step up, but with 21 appearances for Saints mixed in with that, it really shouldn't have come as a shock to the system. I make that 58 appearances in all competitions prior to this season. Your third point, yes there are some late bloomers, but for every Beattie, Idiakez or Wright, there are 100 other's who just stay average and just get completely forgotten. Yes, that's the other argument I don't buy. He quite clearly has had the chances, even if we haven't looked to creative as a team. BTW, he took 5 penalties last season, scored 2 in the League, 1 in the LC and missed 2 more in the League.

Just looking at some of the players we've spent £1m or less on in the past and you've got: Andrew Davies - Over 50 Prem appearances in the Prem and clearly a class above. Stern John - May have been older and with little resale value, but immense CCC experience Marian Pahars - At that time he was already attracting interest from teams like Werder Bremmen and had several caps and goals for Latvia. James Beattie - England U21 international on the fringes of a Prem side. Marek Saganowski - After he went on that scoring run. BWP - From Man City's youth team and with a handful of Prem appearances. Then you consider we've just sold Dyer to Swansea for £400k. Then there's DMG. Don't get me wrong, HCDAJFU in L1 certainly, but last season wasn't all THAT impressive. Until his mini scoring run of 5 goals in our last 13 games, many people were angry with his attitude and lack of scoring, claiming he should be dropped from the side althogether. There are a couple of arguments I don't buy either. 1. He's our top scorer. Not exactly an achievement given the competition. Even given Saga's goal drought in the last 13 games, he still got a better scoring rate in the 20 games he played for Saints this season. Pekhart (remember him) never played, BWP played on the wing more often than not, Euell is a donkey who relies of 5 decent games a season to save his reputation and Robertson was f**king hopeless. 2. It's his first full season in the first team. He played at least 10 first team games last season and half a dosen the season before, aswell as quite a few out on loan. In all he probably made 50 odd first team appearances before the start of this season. 3. He's still young. Yes maybe so, but he's not all that young if we're honnest. I can't think of that many players who are average at 21, and end up playing for England when they're 25. If he were 17 and looking better with every game like Bale or Theo, I might be excited. I can't honnestly say I've seen much improvement in DMG over the last 3 years. Also it's not like Dyer where you think "he's got bags of pace and skill, if he could just hone his crossing and get a bit more awareness, he'd be incredible. IF he were to leave and become one of the CCC's top strikers in a few years, how much is he really going to be worth? We got Rasiak for £2m. I think between £2-3m is realistic. So in summary, let's hope he stays, but selling him for £1m really isn't much to cry about.

Just a reminder to anyone who watches Big Brother: You are a sad w*nker wasting 1 hour of your day which could be better spent watching paint dry.

Well, that's one way of getting at the matchday buffet in the executive suite. BTW, Matty showed Beattie and Pahars how to take a penalty when they were here. Aside from the Crossley save they never missed a pen between them. Vignal never missed a penalty for us either. HCDAJFU. Watch and learn Surman/Wotton/DMG/Euell/John (I know he's gone)

To me the measure of how good managers are is how well they do with their resources and how much of an impact they have relative to the last guy. When Pearson took over from Dudd and Gormless, the team immediately became hard to beat. After the shambles against Plymouth we drew 4 and won 1 of our next 5 games, including that crucial win against Leicester. This represented a possitive change for me, which is why I think Pearson was an excellent manager. When WGB, D&G, Portaloo and WTF took over from their respective predecessors, they had little or no possitive impact on the team, which is why, IMO they were all very average to poor managers. Wotte, aside from those 3 brilliant wins on the trot, gave little improvement over JP, who himself wasn't good enough. Ultimately they got us relegated and I don't think they got the best out of admittedly limited resources. This is why he should leave IMO.

Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC are being taken over. Nah, that's getting a bit too silly now.

Given choice I'd keep Ras and Surman but not Wotte. If either of them want away though, I wouldn't try to stop them. We need commitment.

Caravans are trailing, soft drinks were 7 up at the start of trading.

Now when he is 37 he'd take any decent contract for a bit of cash. Any footballer would. IIRC he was linked to Bolton whilst still at Milan and Bolton were relegation fodder. Ended up at Cruzeiro instead apparently.

I quite liked "Stand up, if you've got swine flu" from the last game of the season. "There's only one Vicky Pollard" at Millwall in '05 "There's only one Gordon Ramsey" sung at Norwich fans a couple of years ago. "Burley for Scotland" during a terrible first half against Hull 2 years ago. then "Burley for England" when we went 4-0 up in the second half. from Saints fans.

I'm glad we got rid of JVD because he was gash.

50 people out of about 175 survived that, off the East Coast of Africa. The plane had been hijacked by some retarded hijackers and ran out of fuel. Think it's the incident you are refering too. There haven't been that many ditchings on water and in most cases, there are few survivors. If this was an inflight break-up there is 0% chance of any survivors.

What happened to the red and white stripes, badly photoshopped into the background?

Didn't Lundekvam get stretchered off once with a head injury. When someone asked WGS if Claus was unconscious he replied, "I've no idea, he always looks like that"