The Kraken

That part is definitely true.

2008-2012. And he talked himself out of his job. Idiot.

F*ck off Sue. Thanks luv x

"Heisenberg" has been a username on the Ugly for some time.

You really do love a row, don't you? I said you weren't racist, but used a daft term. You're still too childish to actually admit that, and it's everyone else's fault, and nobody else but shurlock understands racism. Deary me.

Big Racist Ron has been out of work for too long. So has Peter Shreeves. The only football man I've heard say "do you know who I am?". (I didn't, as it goes, but luckily he wasn't talking to me).

Must have been expensive, what with continually booking and cancelling flights?!

What hatchet job? You're the one that raised it again. You insinuated I was a "snitch" (which I wasn't, not that it matters) and then have digressed into an "I was only joking and everyone says it anyway so it can't be racist" ridiculous tangent. You didn't disagree with me at all. You AGREED with me. You also clarified that anyone of any race or colour should find racist language wrong. That's entirely a given. Should I need to point that out?? Do you actually believe I don't think that, despite taking Sour Mash to task in that thread over his statements (which I still believe were crass). You used a racist term on here. I called you up on it. You've used deflection tactics to shift the blame, and not done it well. Why not just say, "fair play lads, stupid comment from me". I'm pretty sure your position is clear, you're absolutely not a racist, you just used a stupid phrase. But instead of manning-up, you've chased after me instead, called me a grass and insinuated all sorts. Anyway, carry on. This is a ridiculous conversation for a Saturday evening!!

On both Hummel kits I think they'd look better if the lighter side was more of a contrast. They're too similar, the lighter side needs to be lighter IMO.

The other thread was stamping on people's dreams. It had to be locked for the good of everyone.

I said I wouldn't respond, but I'll clarify. How can I get offended by racial abuse if it's not aimed at my race? Although you tried to say i wasn't concerned by such; that's clearly not the case. I assume you're referring to this thread to get my opinion? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49572-Saints-fan-arrested-and-charged-for-shouting-anti-Semitic-abuse/page2&highlight=jewish+kraken#.U4DsNvldWSo Funny how you actually agreed with my position in that one (which is exactly the same as my position has been here). Strange, very strange. Posts 96 and 97, by the way. I know you love to twist other's opinions into something else you can argue against, but you agreed with my exact line of thinking then, yet because you're the idiot that used racist language this time you've reversed your opinion. It's not about point scoring at all. Perhaps I should be offended by other ethnicities getting racist abuse? One thing is for sure, and even you will recognise without admitting it, is that I have never said I'm not concerned by it, or recognise that it is a real issue for others.

Agreed. If he ends up leaving in July or August it just plunges next season into doubt.

Don't start; Jimmy will be off closing down the HCDAJFU threads next.

It doesn't offend me. But I'm grown up enough to know that racist language, like you employed, might offend someone. Hence I asked you the question "Really" and did nothing more. If anyone else was offended, are you really surprised? Like I said; if you're going to get upset that someone questions you using racist language on a public forum, I think it says something more about you than it does me. I'm sure you want the last word, so you carry on and leave it, I won't bother responding any further on the subject to someone who enjoys uses racist language and then gets all huffy when questioned about it.

My thoughts are that the last thread was closed for a daft reason. Good work Charles. Hope he stays but no smoke without fire, he's hardly entrenched himself here in the past few months.

You might want to get your facts right, if you're going to make insinuations. I commented back to you on your ridiculous terminology, nothing more. That you're childish enough to get upset about being called up on it probably says more about you than it does me.

Apology accepted, Dell One.

I find it quite quite bemusing, really. In a "how can you really get that wrong?" type fashion! Ho hum. Guided Missile brings up a good point. I don't think I've ever been more soaked to the skin than after that Derby playoff game. Ridiculous scenes, especially with their fans not wanting to celebrate promotion but instead looking to battering innocent Saints fans outside. Utterly bizarre from them, there wasn't even any real needle during the game between the sets of fans.

Fear not, Stevo has spoken for "the majority of Saints fans". He's clearly got his finger on the pulse of public opinion. I imagine he's done polls and all sorts.

Fair enough, but it does. Those are the rules, and everyone knows it. I think I would definitely feel different if all of the promotion places went to playoff. But they don't, the top 2 places (and top 3 in league 2) get their rewards. That third spot gets a little bit random but keeps the season alive for many more teams. I simply don't agree that's unfair.

Really?

It's also irrelevant to whether you support or disagree with the principle of the playoffs for the third promoted side. As I said earlier; it doesn't necessarily reward the team who have performed the best over the season. But I think it's a good system, everyone knows the rules beforehand, and it keeps most of the top half of the table competitive usually right into the last games of the season. If you disagree with the concept then, of course it doesn't need saying, that's fine. But claiming something is grossly unfair when it clearly is anything but, I won't go along with that. Out of interest; do you find American sports to be "unfair" when it comes to determining the winner? As i say, I don't think it compares well to the competition for the third promoted side, but interested to hear the views from someone who lives that side of the pond. I admit, I wouldn't like it for the English leagues to choose a winner by playoff. But for promotion, I just think it works. And if everyone knows the rules beforehand it can hardly be described as unfair IMO.

Would I? You've just described a completely different thing.

It can be argued against because everyone knows the rules at the start of the season. It's not exactly a surprise that finishing 3rd place guarantees you nothing. Personally I think the playoffs are a great idea. Not the textbook definition of rewarding the best side over the course of a season, but everyone knows the rules beforehand.

Sums it up.