The Kraken

Navy shorts is a really good look. Gets us away from Sunderland/Stoke/Brentford/Sheffield United, is a nod to our history, and looks much better than black.

Interesting. I must be in the 5% who won’t be voting for Biden.

He’s definitely a member alright, but not of the CoT; it’s an inclusive group, yet introducing someone with that level of bitterness and resentment into the fold would (I feel) bring the group zen down to an unacceptable low. Much better to steer above the grey clouds 👍

I couldn’t much care about Sue Ellen’s flag preferences, but her self-reflection feature seems to be faulty. She told the Washington conference: "Our problem is that the liberal Conservatives who trashed the Tory party think it was everyone's fault but their own."

I think some people need to calm down a bit. The CoT simply can't win with the polarising levels of vitriol being dispensed on this thread. Demands for providing more information swiftly followed by demands for the thread to be deleted. Thankfully the CoT are made of sterner stuff and won't be diminished by such scurrilous bickering.

Not Ryan Manning? Tsk. Sloppy.

Thank fuck, Trippier off and Shaw on.

This is a good game! So,thing I haven’t said once about England this tournament.

That can’t be a pen surely,

Trippier is awful. Fucking hopeless at left back. We have 5 subs, 1 extra if extra time is needed, just get Shaw there. Southgate is so timid.

“Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.” —Jean-Jacques Rousseau

Labour have historically had much more support for PR than the Tories but they’d be utterly insane to announce any proposal for change now. It would undo some of the political goodwill they have. Plus the British public have just given one of the biggest mandates ever for Labour to get on with the job of governing, so that should be their focus. Im genuinely not convinced a majority of the public want PR. The AV vote showed how desperately unpopular that was. A referendum would be needed and fuck tgat for now. Also the Lib Dems likely won’t be quite as vocal about PR considering they were less popular nationally than Reform but ended up with 67 more seats than them.

Have you ever stopped to think “maybe it’s me”?

Yep, looks exactly how I’d expect a Sunderland kit to look.

Top class punnery 👍

Brexit Jim is a twat and a proven hypocrite.

There's two scenarios where I can see a PR referendum could happen, and both are unlikely: 1) Labour have an absolutely stonking 5 years in power and can basically campaign for the next election on whatever they want. They include a PR ref because essentially its a policy that has a lot of support amongst its party members and unions alike. 2) Labour have a hard time of 5 years in power, there's a hung parliament and they need a coalition with the Lib Dems to get in. The Lib Dems price is a PR ref. There's zero chance of Labour introducing a PR ref within this parliament IMO.

I don't think you have to be kicking anybody let alone be a member of the far-right, an islamophobe, a Tommy Robinson / Katie Hopkins fanboy, or even a Tory to be inducted into the Usual Suspects aka the Baby Reindeer Club (arf).

Seems like another area that whitey is an expert in and hasn’t actually got a flipping clue what he’s talking about.

That’s about 1000% better than any of the other 5.

Christ. I was born in Southampton so I didn’t really get a choice of who to support. You actually chose us from Denmark?! Welcome Kristian. And a good assessment 👍

The extent of Tory lies and slogan parroting will never truly be exposed in full. But the whole concept of tetchy Rishi’s soundbite of “Labour have no plan” which was echoed by a multitude of minions has certainly been identified as a hopeless lie. Fair enough to disagree with the plan itself, but the reality has shown that Labour have been planning how they’re going to address their manifesto pledges for months by actively engaging with the civil service and other related parties well in advance of the election. I like Starmer. I don’t find him inspirational but I do think he’s an extremely capable man with a high work ethic and some exacting demands. I also expect him to be much more transparent than many that have been before him, and not just revert to bullshit and bluster as we’ve become used to. Long way to go yet, but for the first time in ages I don’t feel like we’re being mugged off by those at the top. I don’t expect radical changes in the short term and I think Labour will likely end up making some unpopular choices. But yep, decent start.