Whitey Grandad

But his appearance is not a pre-condition for us to be abysmal.

There was nothing 'iffy' in '76,. unless you're a Man U supporter, that is It was a brilliantly timed run and a well-placed shot inside the far post. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it. And what was unlucky about Pele tugging a shirt in the penalty area?

When we might have had Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea away, although I very much doubt that we would have got through to play all three of those. To argue that our 'fortunate draw' played no part in our reaching the final is blinkered in the extreme.

But had we been drawn away to any of a long list of clubs that we could name I doubt that we would have reached the final. When Watford came out of the 'bag' I couldn't believe our 'luck'.

Because we had 'the luck of the draw', something that you cannot influence by tactics or training.

I think that's why I find our situation so depressing.

If you were really into the Dutch Thing then it would be 'groene haring' with a shot of Gin to follow.

There was nothing unlucky about the red cards, they were all deserved and could probably be attributed to youthful inexperience. The dodgiest penalties that I have seen were by Wotton and McGoldrick. We've discussed this elsewhere, but luck only applies in the short term. The more games that you play, the more you get what you deserve.

http://www.jrcompton.com/photos/The_Birds/J/March-07/JR61052-dead-duck-fl.jpg

To be fair, I though that we started their first game in charge very brightly and were desperately unlucky to lose. (there's that word again)

Apart from anything else, we all knew it wouldn't last, didn't we?

From reading the second one it is pretty clear to me that this was a temporary appointment. There are phrases like 'earned the right to continue in their caretaker roles' and 'will not rush the appointment'. The bit about 'serious ambitions to make the play-offs' does look a bit rash, though. :roll:

Surely nobody though that they were a permanent fixture?

Does that mean that we change managers about 3 times more than the average?

What percentage of those were Saints' ?

Then there's hope for one of us, maybe?

Isn't it in all 4 divisions?

Oh, if only...

Status Quo: 'Down down, deeper and down'

Unless they play each other?

Very succintly put.

I think it just means... we aren't very good...

Sorry, I should have said 'one goal for every 6 chances. Some people talk about 'luck' when what we are really discussing is 'probability'. Basically, luck only applies in the short term. Over more than a few games, and certainly over a season, luck doesn't apply and you get what you deserve.

Sorry, that should have read 'one goal for every 6 chances' Well spotted, and thanks for reading it. I shall correct it now!

I think that what we are saying is: We need quality, not quantity.