Whitey Grandad

That's your assumption, not the actual case.

It's called jumping to conclusions, or confirmation bias.

If you go to the link that I posted just above you can see the actual wording and in this context it does matter. The reaction seems to be: Rashford has been abused. Rashford is a black man. Therefore any abuse of rashford must be of a racist nature. Such responses are demeaning to a fine young man of excellent character. I have no doubt that he has received racial abuse many times but from the defacement of the mural cannot be interpreted as such a thing.

I agree. This is the sadder aspect to all this. Instead of uniting the country these repsonses only seem to have made matters worse.

Oh really? Where did you find that quote? The GMP are treating it as a 'racist incident' despite not knowing who did it nor why. You might like to ask why they came to that conclusion.

Form two days ago, https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/marcus-rashford-greater-manchester-police-greater-manchester-euro-england-b945320.html The words, in themselves are not racist and without knowing the motives no conclusions can be made.

I agree, they are reinforcing prejudices. All discrimination is wrong.

Different people. There is no logic in such matters.

What exactly do you mean by that?

That maybe why he might consider going for something now. I expect all these factors are in his considerations. He might think that he is better off signing an improved contract with us. We shall see.

I have just paid for my two seats that I had previously reserved. I asked about the deadline and was told that it is midnight on Monday 19th July. I chose to make the payments by credirt card over seven months with the first being made today and the others being taken on the 31st August and the end of the subsequent months. I mentioned that the 'contact' link at the bottom of the supporters' account page was broken and I was told that they knew about this. For those like me who had to go hunting for it, here it is, 02381 780780

I would argue that the defacing of the mural is not of itself a racist act. I know nothing about the motives of the perpretators so I cannot jump to a prejudgment. I condemn the act for what it is, not because of what I might think the motives behind it to be. So why bring it up?

Good. Now you've got it. Not making jokes about black people when you would have made a joke about a white person is discriminatory. The sooner we can treat all people as equals the better. The more that the colour of a person's skin is raised the more that differentiation and discrimination will continue.

They are singling out the ones that didn't score in the penalty shoot out. The colour of their skin is not mentioned.

Weird, isn’t it? What do they know that we don’t?

Some anecdotal stories saying that vaccination ‘cures’ long Covid. If such a thing actually exists.

I’ll be there. That’s if I remember today for my season tickets before Monday.

So. A commendable performance in a major football competition gets turned into a discussion about racism. I look forward to the day when we can all treat each other as equal human beings without being diverted by the colour of a person's skin. We don't take any norice of the colour of their eyes, or of their hair.

Well, yes, I include Southgate in ‘they’.

Son will play when Ings is injured.

Because anyone on trial is innocent until proven guilty.

It was obvious to most commentators that we had lost the midfield. We had a doughnut formation with everybody around the outside and nobody in the middle. Italy might have got lucky with the rebound for their goal but we could all see that it was coming. After they scored we were struggling to hang on for 0-0 and penalties. They blew their one big chance.

Er, no it doesn’t. Er, yes you can.

But he did have the odd moment. Didn’t injury effectively finish his career? 7th February 1998: Liverpool 2-3 Southampton (Hirst 2, Ostenstad)Saints claimed their first win at Anfield for 17 years thanks to a brace of goals from David Hirst.The striker grabbed his first of the game from the penalty spot after nine minutes to give the visitors a perfect start to the match.Liverpool forward Michael Owen levelled up before the break to make it 1-1 at half-time.It would go on to be another late show, with Egil Ostenstad sweeping home an assist from Hirst to make it 2-1, before the Norwegian returned the favour for Hirst to smash in the third past David James.Owen reduced the arrears in stoppage time, but Dave Jones’ Saints were deserved winners on the day.Southampton team: Paul Jones, Jason Dodd, Lee Todd, Kevin Richardson, Ken Monkou, Claus Lundekvam (Richard Dryden 49), John Beresford, Matt Oakley (Andy Williams 15), David Hughes, David Hirst, Kevin Davies (Egil Ostenstad 39)

To some extent he was let down by the players that he trusted.