Sheaf Saint

The sheer front of this guy in calling our win a "monumental theft", with seemingly no hint of irony whatsoever

I knew there was a good reason why I have been avoiding this place recently

I used to spend a lot of time on the road in my old job, and the thing that used to bug me most was the dozy f*ckwits who don't understand how to use motorway lanes properly. In my experience it is usually women over the age of 50 - the type that lean right forward and drive with their faces about a foot away from the windscreen. It's even worse now that a lot of the motorways have been upgraded to 4 lanes, because it just seems to confuse them even more. The amount of dinlows I see just bimbling along at 55-60 in lane 3 with no traffic in the inner lanes is ridiculous.

Slither

Glad you asked... https://resistinghate.org/tommy-robinson-and-his-hate-tweets/ Are you still in any doubt that he is nothing but a violent, racist ar*ehole?

I have no problem accepting that treating those of different faith as infidels is part of the scripture. I get that - it's the whole point of all the ancient religious texts. The Old Testament is no different: We're right - they're wrong, so go and kill them all knowing God is on your side. It's obviously ********, but it's not exclusive to Islam. Look at how many in Israel use this fictitious nonsense as justification to treat the Palestinians as sub-human - it's exactly the same mindset. It is also prevalent closer to home. Look in the comments section of any facebook/twitter posts by the likes of Britain First and you will see the blind hatred displayed openly by people who see other cultures as sub-human. Seriously - the kind of stuff that gets posted on those places is truly shocking - many people think it is perfectly OK to openly call for the mass slaughter/gassing etc... of immigrants and refugees. And whether you want to accept it or not, that is EXACTLY the kind of demographic that the likes of Robinson rely on and appeal to for support.

So a group of c*nts commit an evil act, and claim that their holy book gave them the right to do it. So f*cking what? I could go out tomorrow and mow down a load of people in my car and claim that the flying spaghetti monster commanded me to do it - doesn't make it true. If you look hard enough in any holy book you will find sections which *could* be interpreted in such a way as to justify being a c*nt to other human beings. None of this has any relevance or connection to the vast majority of people who identify as Muslim. I could point to the actions of the guy who killed Jo Cox and the guy who drove into some people outside a mosque as 'evidence' that all middle-aged white men are racist w*nkers. But that would be blatantly absurd. Just as painting the entirety of Islam as being to blame for the actions of a very small minority of c*nts is equally absurd. This is my problem with Robinson, Golding etc... They don't just want to criticise the religion, they want to portray all brown people as evil. They are essentially hate preachers - no better than the likes of Whatsisname Choudry with their message of bigotry and intolerance.

You're still going out of your way to paint him in the best light possible aren't you. What he does is not just criticise the Koran/Islam. It goes waaaaaay beyond that. Plenty of people are capable of criticising religions without attracting the kind of negative attention that Robinson does. People like Richard Dawkins, for instance, somehow manage to produce reasoned, coherent arguments against religious ideology without being accused of neo-nazism. I wonder why that is? What Robinson is trying to achieve is not simply criticising the religion. He wants the description of the word 'Muslim' to extend to cover everybody who has brown skin and has a middle-eastern sounding name. The problem is that, just as there are still large numbers of people in the UK who still identify as Christian despite never actually going to church, there is a significant proportion of people who identify as Muslim, but don't actually believe and never go to a mosque except for special occasions to appease the more devout members of their family. The vast majority of these people have absolutely nothing in common with the kind of extremists who might decide to blow themselves up for their cause. And neither do they identify or associate with people who think their 'religion' gives them the right to rape young girls. Those people are just c*nts - and every culture or ethnic group has its fair share of c*nts. The rest are just ordinary people like you and me, trying to make a living for themselves and a better life for their families. But Robinson and his ilk don't give a sh*t about that. All they are interested in is generating a feeling of hostility and intolerance towards all of them. They jump on any negative stories about people called Mohammed doing evil things as 'evidence' that all Muslims are bad people and should all be cast out of our society. The fear and reservation about Islam in Europe that you refer to is largely due to the kind of ignorance and intolerance that vocal bigots like Robinson continuously spout.

WTF? Maybe in your eyes it doesn't, but in the eyes of the law it does. Do you not see the inherent hypocrisy in a man who shouts very loudly about immigration into his own country then trying to enter another country on a false passport? For someone who 'doesn't like the guy' you seem to be going to some pretty extreme lengths to stick up for him.

He might have been one of the first people to start being vocal about grooming gangs, but let's not pretend he was some fearsome, independent investigator who managed to unearth evidence of such things long before anybody else had. That's just absurd. The only reason he even knew about it was because there had already been a number of high profile cases that he jumped on to use as 'evidence' that Muslims = evil. As for the 'convicted fraudster' thing, you seem to be willfully ignoring that the deposit case isn't the only item on his rap sheet. Are you forgetting that he committed passport fraud as well? Quite ironic seeing as he seems to have such a massive problem with immigrants breaking laws himself. And anyway, in my experience the line of attack most media use tends to be that he has previously been jailed for assault and football hooliganism, which is surely much more of a reflection of his true character. He may have tried his hardest to distance himself from the EDL over the years and try to make himself out to be in some way respectable. But he will always be the same hate-filled, bigoted moron he has always been. You can dress a pig in a suit but it will still be a pig, as the saying goes.

Put their stadium plans on hold and Abramovich is not allowed back in the country at the moment. Doesn't bode well for them.

Yeah, getting it through the Exodus add-on in Kodi. I'm not waiting 3 months to watch it on Netflix.

Not true. We're deriding him for being such a bellend that he went and broke a law that he was already on a suspended sentence for breaking previously, and in doing so caused the very real possibility of mistrial which could have seen the defendants walk free on a technicality. If he really, genuinely cared about bringing those men to justice for their actions then he would have stayed well away. But his actions betray his real agenda, which is to stoke up as much anti-islamic hatred as he possibly can. I'm no authoritarian and I don't want to see him and his ilk silenced. I want to see them given the opportunity to spout their bigoted bile and nonsense because, as both he and his Britain First contemporaries Golding and Fransen have shown, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. These people are not the brave free speech warriors that some are trying to make them out to be. They are violent, hate-filled morons who fail to see the irony in the fact that they constantly call for immigrants to respect our laws but they can't respect them themselves. And by the way, following your assertion that he was only convicted of fraud because of his beliefs - are you suggesting that he did not get a fair trial because of media bias? There are laws against that you know

Chronic

Conscious

Aw, poor little Tommy is just misunderstood is he? He's a convicted thug who appeals to ignorance, bigotry and hatred to gain support for his far-right cause. If he isn't a neo-nazi monster then he's doing a very passable impression of one. FFS the guy is so pathetic that he recently staged an attack on himself outside Macdonalds and posted the video online so he could paint himself out to be the poor victim.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/ I also found this bit in the final paragraph of that article very interesting... No prizes for guessing which of these categories Hypo falls into.

What do you think of the fact that the grooming gang might now walk free due to his actions? The guy is total f*cking idiot who blatantly broke the strict non-reporting rules that exist for a very good reason. Do you think he should be exempt from that law?

Balm

You sure about that bit?

In fairness though, we all know that MP wasn't our first or possibly even second choice. If we had got the man we really wanted then it would have undoubtedly been wrapped up much sooner.

Double

Nut

Box

I imagine Newcastle fans still call it St James' Park, as that is what it has always been regardless of what their chairman wants to call it. As for the others (and you can also include Bolton and Huddersfield in this list in that their new grounds only ever had a commercial sponsors name since they opened) - I genuinely feel sorry for fans of those clubs in this respect. We nearly had the same situation when Lowe announced that it would be called the Friends Provident stadium, only for a fan backlash to get them to add the St Marys bit which then became the obvious name for us to adopt. As someone has already posted - it doesn't matter what sponsorship deals the club does and what the media decide to call it, to us it will only ever be St Marys.