Sheaf Saint

Mayuka on fro Lallana

what the f**k!?

Lambert has been virtually anonymous today.

Great opportunity for a quick break and Ramirez nearly f**s it up with a really lazy pass that nearly put us back in trouble. He does that far, far too often for my liking.

Really awful passage of play from Fox there. Gave it away cheaply and then lost his man before fouling him. Crap, crap, crap.

Just seen the replay of their goal. What was Clyne doing? He just stood there and watched while Fortune tried to scramble it in. Why on earth didn't he get back on the line to help out Boruc who was on the floor?

It doesn't work against teams that sit back and defend in numbers.

It's QPR all over again.

Oh dear me, this is painful.

I notice Fox still hasn't learned not to head the ball right back into the danger area.

Good effort from Clyne

Close to an OG there!

Should have conceded again there. This is hard to watch - defending has been utterly comical so far today.

Should have been a FK to us just before that. This ref isn't great.

Nice interception from Clyne there

Another dangerous opportunity there. No surprise it came down our left side. Lukaku is too good a player to have Fox marking him.

Or we could just focus on trying to win this game and not have to worry about other results. Just a thought.

Scrappiest goal you'll ever see.

No, I didn't claim that it does. If you read my later reply to pap, I'm not supporting any side here, I was merely pointing out that this particular aspect of the story is questionable because the official account doesn't seem to fit with the evidence. You could be right, it might just be a case of an over-zealous copper deciding to dish out his own special brand of extra-judicial punishment after he was captured, but either way some further investigation is required. We'll just have to wait and see what kind of official report is presented to the public.

errr, monkey nuts are peanuts.

As if we didn't already know... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165 I despair, I really do.

Given the size of the wound on his chest/side shown in the later picture, there would have been a massive amount of blood loss which would have been evident through his clothes. He was clearly alive when he was lying on the ground in the surrender position as his hands are 'hovering' above the ground. Something isn't right.

I'm just calling it how I see it pap. While some of the theories doing the rounds are quite clearly just the deranged ramblings of people with nothing better to do with their time, there are many aspects of the whole thing that don't seem to add up to me, that's all. I'm not coming down on any particular side here, as there is no either/or as I see it - Just like the whole alleged 9/11 conspiracy. I have read countless pages and accounts relating to it and while some of them have merit, others are clearly nonsense. Just because one particular claim can be easily de-bunked doesn't mean that other aspects don't deserve further investigation. One thing I have learned is to believe no-one, especially if they happen to be mainstream media. You only have to look at who owns what in the broadcast media in the States to see there is a massive conflict of interest there (like the fact that NBC is owned by one of the world's biggest arms manufacturers, General Electric).

So is sinking your teeth into somebody when the ball is out of play not classed as assault then?

OK, my mistake - I know you should never trust wiki but the citation appeared to be genuine. I should have researched a little more.