Minsk

The result was obvious before a ball was kicked. Of the 16 man squad: Only 4 had played any more than a handful of matches at CCC level before this season. Eight of them played 4 days ago against Exeter Reserves, where they scraped a 3-2 win. I really do get the feeling this team was 2 fingers up to all those who complained at the AGM, and the rest of us who unhappy with the way things are at SMS.

Did he say for which team?

Aren't we always? (Except that the only match I was over for, so far, this season was against Norwich at SMS.)

or The best I could come up with in a quick google search, and in that time we have gone 2 down. Therefore, NO there isn't any hope left!!!

I thought 2 of those were by Pearce, who IS on the bench?

I couldn't have put it better myself Eric. As I posted on the build-up thread, there are only 4 players in our 16 (including Jack Cork) with more than seasons worth of experience in the CCC. And, 8 of today's 16 played for our reserves against Exeter reserves on Monday (in which we cruised to a 3-2 win, FFS!)

How or(gasmi)c! In case anyone is joing us late, the team/bench for today is: Saints: Davis, James, Cork, Lancashire, Skacel, Gillett, Gobern, Smith, Holmes, Surman, McGoldrick. Subs: Forecast, Mills, Pearce, McLaggon, Paterson

I have just checked the reserve team for Monday's 'especially arranged' match against Exeter. 8 of the players who featured in a 3-2 win over Exeter reserves are included in today's squad. Those players being: Forecast - bench today, played the full 90 on Monday Lancashire - starting today, played the first half on Monday Mills - bench today, played the full 90 on Monday Gillett - starting today, played the first half on Monday Gobern - starting today, played the entire second half on Monday McLaggon - bench today, played the full 90 on Monday Smith - starting today, played the first half on Monday Paterson - bench today, played the entire second half on Monday

Further to my last: Kayne McLaggon is a RW/AM type player.

Keeping his powder dry for Sunday? In that he can bring in the fresh legs of Euell, BWP, Perry, etc?

Yet another one of our world beating super yoof!

Although, on the bright side, at least they haven't shoved Pulis into the team (yet!)

Saints: Davis, James, Cork, Lancashire, Skacel, Gillett, Gobern, Smith, Holmes, Surman, McGoldrick. Subs: Forecast, Mills, Pearce, McLaggon, Paterson Anyone get the feeling this is 2 fingers up at those who complained about the lack of experienced players at the AGM? Davis, Skacel and Drew (plus Jack Cork considering his loan last season) are the only ones from the entire 16 who have played more than a season at this level. Not even any experience to come off the bench FFS!!

Agreed.

What's all this with Dave Armstrong in CM? I can only remember him playing LM. Anyway, Steve Williams and Jimmy Case for me.

Yep, it's absolutely crazy isn't it!? And even more so because he wasn't even nominated for this position!! (I notice St L hasn't bothered posting on this thread since I ponted out that fact.) I can only guess that those people who voted for him did so because he was a very good player and definitely deserves to be somewhere in either the A ir B teams. Of course he should be one of the front two in either of those teams, so maybe people are voting for him here so that he cannot be voted into a front two position and thus stop their preferred candidates from being voted in?

I agree. It was crazy to let him go on a free.

As opposed to us looking stupid in voting a player as our 2nd best RM/RW who never played there.....Keegan! And maybe, if he was to lose out in a fair poll, he isn't our best or even 2nd best RW. (Paine and Channon for me). Or LM/LW (Armstrong and Sydenham?) Or CM (Williams, BAll, Case, et al) Or striker (Davis, Channon, Shearer, possibly even Moran and Boyer were better for that position) But yes, he was our best player. Still, this does still go to show that yes we can nominate anyone for a particular position, but they will not be included in the vote if St L thinks they will lose (for a particular position) but he wants them somewhere in the A team.

You're right, MLT can be nominated for any position but will he be added to list of contenders to vote upon???? (i.e. He was nominated for RM/RW for both the A and B teams but because he would probably lose out to TP for the A team slot, and someone didn't want to run the risk of him having to be in the B team, the goal-posts were moved.)

Not to worry, we've yet to unleash Pulis Jnr on the CCC. (rollyeyedthingy)

And there we have it, the real reason we are where we are now. The three primarily responsible for our total demise are: Askham Wilde Lowe in that order, IMO. For those asking who could do a better job than Lowe: I am sure there are many but I don't run around in the world of dynamic CEOs, and only know a handful of the names of chairman of any other football club, but I do sincerely believe that Crouch would not have been any worse and probably a darned site better. Do not believe all this carp being touted by Lowe and Quisling that our finances were his fault. They themselves were the ones to blame.

Ahhh, I've got it now. Instead of putting those already nominated for RM/RW (which most of us knew would be for the best and second best teams) on the thread which had run for 36 hours, throughout all of Sat and half of Sun, you decided to ask for nominations for the B team only, for 7 hours of a Sunday afternoon/evening, FFS!! This would explain why Mick Channon, nominated by myself and Weston as the second best RW in the original thread, is not included. It appears as if this is not a very democratic vote, but more that you are making up the rules to suit the players you want to be in the A Team. For example, as well Micky, MLT was nominated as the second best RM/RW but, if you would care to go back and check as I have just done (thanks for telling me it was all in the golden posts), Keegan was not. Yet here we are with no MLT on the top list but somehow Keegan is there. Oh, and yes I do now realise it was you who nominated Bally for RM (even though I saw most of his games for Saints and never once playing in that position) as you think (probably correctly) that he will not get into the A team. And I also agree in that I think MLT should be in the A Team, but that does not mean I agree with you 'bending the rules' of this to suit your own ends. Incidentally, had you gone with the original nominations (minus TP who was a shoe-in for the A team) it would have been interesting to see which one of MLT and Channon would have been in the B team and which would still be eligible for elsewhere in the A team.

St L, Thanks for answering part of one of my questions (re MLT) but what about the rest? Why no Mick Channon? (who I believe is our 2nd best RW, I would have MLT as AM); How on earth can Keegan (out and out fwd for his entirety at Saints) and Ball (CM engine throughout his entirety at Saints) be on the list for RM/RW? What happened to the nomination thread? Ta, Minsk

As the thread title says 'people on this forum are ridiculous'. It wasn't Crouch who employed Hone and Dulieu, it was the same person who put Lowe back on his throne; the same person who has caused us to be the financial mire we are now in; Mike 'Scouse' Wilde!!!!!

Indeed he was. Wouldn't it be nice if Alan56 came back and apologised for his little tirade? I won't hold my breath though.