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There are some really good players on there, mental to think some of them can't get clubs when you think of the dross that is out there.

No offence Bessie but its the mongboard pecking order. People you take things as gospel from are as follows Me Monk Glasgow Dig dig

WE need to stop this obsession with playing youth players and pick our best XI. Also we need more power in midfield than Ward Prowse is able to offer, I fear he'll get bullied by Nolan. Bring Clyne back and hopefully Shaw will be fit by then.

As ever an excellent post by Monk.

Harry Redknapp was spouting off on talksport again this morning, but he did make a couple of salient points. You never see kids playing football in the street or on bits of waste land over here like they used to, in South America and central Europe where all the best players seems to come from these days they do. There the ball bounces of walls, uneven ground and bits of metal and its there you learn how to control, pass and dribble the ball properly from a young age when it comes to you at unpredicatable angles and bounces. No one taught George Best how to dribble or Bobby Charlton how to shoot. He also questioned the desire of a lot of younger players, saying alot of them arent really interested in the national team and more interested in the club.I agreed entirely with what he was saying.

Never Say this again.

And that's because you've got top players going out on loan. Seriously, Chelsea were after a £3m loan fee for Ba, a player that cost them £7m only 8 months ago. How is this right? If the loan system were used properly and how it was meant for they'd either be stuck with Ba or have to sell him. You'd also hopefully stop club stockpiling their squads with players they dont need and have to use them or sell them - see Scott Sinclair on loan at WBA from City FFS

does anyone else think it has become a farce? How can it be right that clubs like Liverpool and Everton are able to loan players from clubs like Chelsea & Man City. Depsite the excitement on here (which makes this thread Saints related) I found it a little embarassing we were linked with a loan move for Victor Moses. The loan system was set up to enable smaller clubs to boost their squad if they got injures and for younger players to get first team experience at a lower level, not for rich clubs to farm out their players, get large loan fees and sit back and watch their players take points off their opponents in their quest for the title whilst being unable to play against them and do damage to their own chances. We also have loaned Puncheon out to Crystal Palace so it also applies to us from here, again how can it be right that we are loaning out a player to another club that is on record as saying he wants the move for "personal reasons" Well in that case leave. I'm all for loaning out younger players to championship and L1 clubs and even if our squad players want to get match pratice but loans between clubs in the same division is a joke, especially when it's top clubs and players involved. Chelsea will benefit from having a weaker opposition squad when not having Luaka and Moses face them when they play Everton and Liverpool but every other club in the division will. Surely this threatens the integrity of the competition.

WIgan have been above us or in the same division as us for every season bar this one for the past 8, why are Schiderlins appearances for us so much more impressive and pulse racing than those McCarthy made at Wigan?

There are no chavs in Harrogate Colin! Well there are a few but the council puts them all on one estate out of our way so we don't have to see them, its a bit like South Africa with the townships. You're not in Coventry now! Colin from Coventry in his football shirt and mondeo, probably some bland music like Coldplay on the stereo, it goes together like Rhubarb and custard. I doth mind Passats actually, had a golf a couple of years ago which I loved, but its BMW or Audi all the way for me now.

I have this image of you driving round Coventry in you're mondeo wearing one of your football shirts.

It suits your mongboard image.

Why am I not surprised you drove a mondeo.

Paul Rideout, always thought he was decent but not popular with the fans, remember when he left the front cover of the UI or On The March fanzine has a picture of him and 'bye bye badman' as the headline.

bo*llocks to that mate, i went from a Saab 93 1.9 TDI Vector to a BMW 320D and i dont care what anyone says, teh BMW is the better car by a mile. Better build quailty, better drive,more comfortbale to drive (i do about 30k a year) as econiomical and much more reliable, done 20,000 in it so far and not so much as rattle. People say its just a brand and you pay for the name, whilst that might be true it's worth every penny.

as no goals in open play testifies.

so if they're out what happens?

Werent we heavily relaint on our full backs in our championship season? The amount of assists they got suggests so. Is it fair to say the man to take us to the next level is copying the tactics of the clueless bumpkin who was out of his depth?

What are you on about fat boy? Calm down, you'll give yourself a heart attack.

just simply not good enough, as the fact that two managers gave him one start between them. Maybe a season of regular football will help him but i cant see it. He'll be 23 in a couple of months time, not some 18 year old sent out on loan to get first team experience. Another one like Forren and Lee where it hasn't paid off.

The Mark Draper Uwe Rosler window was a good one too and a fitting way window for our last season at the dell

Stoke seem to excel at this every year. The highlight for me was about 50 scrawny spotty dweeds in tracksuit tops leaping around and punching the air when they signed Peter Crouch on deadline day one year.

i think thats more due to how we play rather than the players, we didn't seem to have a problem scoring goals this time last season, or even in MP's early days. His teams seem to be based around hard work than creativity, which is fine away from home but not so good when teams come to SMS and sit deep. In fact, if we persist with this against the lesser teams at home it will be a complete waste of the talent we have available up front.

up there with his "Lampard is sh*t" post. IMO.

I loved the Saints fan in the Hummel hoodie stood behing Jim White waving the "He plays on the left, he plays on the Right Ronnie Eklund makes Baggio look sh*te" Placard. that was LOLZ