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Dull drums has retired from here, for now.

Why would I have a guilty conscience? Come on, name them. Name them, name them, fu cking name them.

I'm saying a good team get results even when they aren't playing well, a bad team struggles to get results even when they are.

Not at all, why would I? come on you're the one with all the tap, tap. Back up your claims and name the ones you mean. What are you worried about?

Agreed, it's people like him that are ruining this board!

Probably because everyone was e'd up

Name them, it can't be hard if there are plenty, go on, name them.

Who are the ones you can think of?

A good team gets results even when they aren't playing well, a bad team struggles to get results even when they are.

I can't think if any, why don't you just put us all out of our misery and name them.

Fat chance of that. I'm still waiting for my pint from Plymouth away.

He was on the job two months. No time at all to decided if he was performing against target.

An open air banqueting suit like on your very interesting drawing will be packed to the rafters when we play Stoke on a tuesday evening in February.

An utter inability to grasp anything anyone has been saying.

Thanks for the compliments but i think there are enough Turkish worship on here already without devoting entire forums to me!! I was of course talking hypothetically when i said Lambert was a24 stone jounrney man and Lallana was our for two years with a hip injury, in that scenario £6m would be a good deal. It's like some posters logic that if Ramirez had played mroe games he was guarenteed to have scored more and had more assists. It's impossible for him not to have.

IIRC we had about 16,000 season ticket holders that season, If we work off a conservative estimate of 1,500 away fans a game (i know Burnley brought more than that, but to make MLG's figures more acceptable to him) then that leaves us with 21,500 other different fans excluding away fans who could have attended the games. However we do know some people went to all three which needs to be factored in, as well as the people that might have gone to only two of the three. This is all getting very complicated, however it's safe to say that MLGs attracting 74,000 people whilst in admin figure is unsurprisingly massively wide of the mark.

have a guess....

So did I, so that's another one.

It's not 74,000 people though is it. Unless of course you think those attendance's meant different person went to each game. You've clearly blocked It from your mind as it probably upsets you but those crowds were dispointing given the circumstances, the big push to rally people to attend and the fact that it could have been our last ever games. People said as much at the time.

Nice attempt to rewrite history. The attendances were actually disappointing. We were in admin and every penny counted. Fans were being urged to attend as every penny counted towards our survival, his wasn't some massive upturn in support because of Lowe going, it was fans realising the plight the club was in and doing something about it. Even then though we didn't sell out.

So for other clubs its a great idea to attract neutrals but for saints you just want us to be 100% saints yes? So base on your contribution per minute ideology David Nugent with one goal in one appearance was a better striker for England than Bobby Charlton, Gary Linekar and Michael Owen, yes?

No I'm not, that is what you said. Just look up the page. 'At least ours will be our own fans, 50% of Readings will be neutrals' Then when i said how well they'd done attracting these type of fans you started saying there was nothing wrong with that and it was vital. And you say I'm argumentative, with every post on This thread you've made yourself look a little bit more stupid.

According to some posters we have.

If we can establish ourselves as a top 10 club then I believe we could probably get an average crowd of about 36k, filling a 40,000 stadium for big games. This has always been my stance on this and ive consistently said this. Constant relegation scrapers then our crowds won't go up, if anything they'll probably go down slightly as people get fed up with spending £35 a week to see us lose every week. To put a figure on it an average of about 29-30k Relegation prob c23,000 for being a possible play off contender. I've always maintained that we could need to expand at some point in the future if we can establish ourselves as a relatively successful side and about 40k was about right and that we should do this when we have firm evidence that more seats were needed. This is by selling out most weeks and having a solid and consistent base of season ticket holders, ideally with a wqiting list for them. What i don't subscribe to is MLG and his cronies view that it has to happen soon, that Cortese is in a mad hurry to do it, that we should just build it and worry about how to fill it later and if this involves cutting prices then so be it, that we should do it because Reading might be, Wolves built a new stand, Stoke might expand, that Chelsea only got 13k in 1984, that Sunderland had only 9,000 season ticket holders at RokerPark, that we have more fans than Everton. We should do it when it's right for us and Cortese seems to agree with me, otherwise the builders would be there right now, as MLG thinks they should be.

coming from the person who rates a players contribution to a team on what he might have done and now slags Reading off for attracting neutrals on one post then on the next post says attracting neutrals is vital. You couldn't make it up.