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Ahh Sunderland, good example. Isn't their record crowd at Roker Park 75k or something. Evidence of a huge potential fanbase compared to Saints record crowd at tthe Dell of a huge 31k. evidence? Well Id like to see a history of crowds in the past to suggest the fan base is there, 75k like Sunderland once had would be good. Waiting lists for season tickets when we peaked in 2003, how many disappointed fans had their faces pressed against the gates trying to get a glimpse of the pitch after being locked out in that period, come in there must be thousands of them, surely a few must post on here. I can't see a single shread of evidence that we can get crowds of 50k other than you saying you can't see why not.

I would agree 40k is realistic as an aim, but some are saying 50k regularly, which would make us the 4th best supported club in England. There is not a single piece of credible evidence to suggest this is possible.

Ahh, this famous imaginery line again. Where we are tucked away in the south east corner. Underneath a line which also includes areas as far away as Yorkshire in terms of miles and encompasses the whole of Wales. Any reason why these areas would be full of Southampton supporters?

Forget Corteses vision and drive. Forget dreaming of the champions league. Forget Chelsea only getting small crowds in 1982,that we sold a game out once in 6 hours when Brett Ormerod was playing for us, being contained by the Dell a chairman that didnt invest etc etc. Do you really believe a club in a city like of Southampton, can be one one of the best 5 supported clubs in the country, which we would need to be to get crowds of 50k a week. Overtake the likes of Tottenham, Aston Villa, Everton with their history, size and fan bases.

That's it then, because we sold out one game quickly 8 years ago during our beat period in 20 years we better call the builders in.

Obviously not, but I bet we didn't turn away even a 4 figure number for Man Utd. In fact i know for a dact we rarely turned away anyone. I repeat, even at our "peak" in 2003 I never met ANYONE who failed to get a ticket if they really wanted one. Now you answer my question. What was our waiting list for season tickets like in 2002-05?

Can you confirm how long the waiting list for season tickets was 2002-2005 please. That is always a good indication of if you need to expand the stadium, Tottenham have a case to redevelop WHL to the 56k as their waiting list is around 13k in a 36k stadium.

How many were we turning away? A couple of hundred tops i'd imagine. I certainly never heard of anyone not getting a ticket that wanted one, no stories of waiting lists or turning away thousands weekly. What makes people think we'd suddenly have 18,000 disapointed fans each and every week even if we go from finish 8th-12th every season in 2002-14 to the dizzy heights of 7th-10th every season in 2014-18 And your point about Liverpool is relevant, they are a huge club, much bigger than us why and how are we suddenly going to become as well supported as them?

When we were in the premier league and the only club in the area with the imaginery line throuogh Birmingham and London up there, were finishing in the top half, reaching cup finals and playing in Europe we just about managed to sell out most weeks. Can someone please come up with one good reason why now suddenly in the same sized stadium we will be turning away 18k every week. The previous reasons of Chelsea only getting 13k in 1982, Fulham get 25k and they are next door to Chelsea, Liverpool get 40k and they aren't very good at the moment and it being possible because they said man would never climb Everest didn't convince the doubter last time round.

Chelsea have got a huge catchment area and they only used to get 10k in 1983.

Wasn't one of the reasons given as why we could easily fill a 45k stadium week in week out because of the huge catchment area we have?

:lol::lol: LMFAO!!! You're not wrong there mate :lol::lol:

YOu may mock but i doubt any champions league club has issues with their PA system. This is what we aspire to be and getting the basics right is half the battle.

I agree. This has never been satifactory. For club that considers it facilities to be of premier league standard i have to say much of it is far from it. I mentioned the big screens on sunday but this coupled with the PA system are threatening to distabilise the SFC juggernaught. I bet Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool dont have their fans so discontent with the match day facilities. It's difficult to enjoy the matchday experience when there are so many things overshadowing what the players are doing on the pitch.

Seattle here i come FFS!!! It's next week i'm going though mate, she'll have a week to get the prison smell off her before i get anywhere near it.

Radio 5 said last night she is already writing a book and has a deal with a publisher. She may also get compensation for wrongful imprisonment, I know some have over here. No doubt there will be plenty of documentaries and a film. Financially she'll do well out of it.

this story cant be true, we have been told on here only a few weeks ago the mirror just make stories up.

rapists and paedos deserve everything they get.

You do seem to live in a very naive and ideological bubble rickety old bridge don't you.

I spotted it in Switzerland preseason so I beat you. Turkish 1 the9 0. FACT

Funny how Pardew who some slated on here as being poor tactically has managed to take a team who have sold their best players to the top 6 of the premier league.

Obviously we were watching the same game, unlike some that post on here. If I was their manager or fan is be worried about that lack of arseh*le in them, no fight at all and gave up when the second goal went in. Signs of a team that might struggle.

The thing that you all seem to be forgetting is being sent to prison is the punishment for your offence. Losing your liberty, being away from your life, family, friends etc. Being sent to prison is the punishment. Coming out is also a punishment, offenders have to tell potential employers about convictions and time away, would you take someone on that had had just got out of the nick If you had interviewed 10 other people that hadn't? Should they be made to live off bread and water and locked up 24 hours a day? Maybe some should. Don't get me wrong alot of people in prison are cu*ts, who deserve everything they get, there are also alot of people who know-nothing else than a criminal life, there are others who have made one mistake and been dished out justice from a system more intent on justifying cost, satisfying the media and proving a point than actually giving people sentances they deserve. Some deserve the treatment, some deserve the bang up and bread and water future, but not all of them do, which is why the carrot or stick is right for our prisons. They've been punished by being there. When they are there behave and work you'll be rewarded, dont and you won't. This comes from the horses mouth by the way, someone that has been there and done it, not someone that had read too many guardian articles.

This is one to ask the UI forum mate, i am sure they'll be able to help.

we are Southampton we're top of the league.