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But Chamberlain made Garry Borrowdale look a mug and got him sent off by skinning him, he skinned the D&R left back all day, are you saying he would make different decisions against Ashely Cole and Gareth Bale? How can this be, when the standard of opposition doesn't matter?
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But surely with his "great football brain" which is better than current England internationals, it wont matter which side he plays on, he'd easily be able to adapt.
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I agree, we need one of those and we are looking for the perfect striker then in that case, they are probably playing for Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man United or Chelsea and costing £40m+ so we should make sure we put a cheeky bid in.
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There is no doubt Chamberlain is a good player, no one is saying he isn't. What i find laughable are the claims Chamberlain has a better football brain than Walcott and using Walcotts performances at international level as evidence to back this up. He may do, he may not, but you cant compare one player in Division 3 playing against Dagenham and Wallsall with another who is playing international and champions league football. I certainly dont remember Chamberlain skinning O'Shea or Fabio in the cup game like he has done Wallsalls and Dagenhams fullbacks.
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A lot of companies have it written into contracts that if you are found guilty of a criminal offence whilst employed by them the company, either whilst on company business or not, then this can considered gross misconduct and lead to instant dismissal, my company have it in our contracts and i'm pretty sure the last one did as well.
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The standard of the opposition doesn't matter dont forget.
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No Theo didn't, but he was playing at INTERNATIONAL level. Do you not think that the level you play at matters? Do you think Chamberlain would be as confident at skinning Ashley Cole as he would be Carlises Garry Borrowdale? DO you think he would make the same decision if he was playing Chelsea and Carlise?
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True, then when they realise he's not the new Platini people will be saying he is sh*te.
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We know he's a good player, he's played in the Championship for the last 4 seasons, half of one with us, he's an England U21 international and a Chelsea player at the moment. It's not quite the same as signing a player from relegated S****horpe.
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Please explain what a "football brain" is. And you are comparing someone playing at international level against someone playing at League one level, it's a ridiculous comparison.
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He's just signed for Hamburg sadly. Jack Cork is a quality player and would be a great signing. Young, hungey & talented but also had 3 or 4 years championship experience. Just the sort of player we should be looking at.
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John Terrys nickname, JT is ingenious.
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Calling one of the management team by his nickname shows a lack of respect to me. We could do without someone like that coming in.
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No point, we have "too much money" as it is. An extra £10m isn't going to make a difference.
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/\ I am not "browbeating them" i am trying to understand the logic, particularly the comments that it doesn't matter who the opposition are when you have this great football brain. Also the laughable comment on another thread that only his attitude can stop him becoming a world great and his attitude doesn't seem to be a problem, yes thats right people he is the new Messi FFS. I'd have thought it'd be much easier to look like a world beater against the likes of the magnificent Gary Borrowdale of Carlise and other no mark league one full backs than against Ashely Cole or Gareth Bale but it seems not. Everyone seems to go on about Chamberlain being better at the same age and using Theo apparantly running up blind alleys at internatinal level as evidence of this, forgetting that when Walcott was with us he was one of the hotest prospects in Europe, scored plenty and was head and shoulders the best player in our team, Chamberlain isn't and that is for a team playing the division below. Walcott has never had the honour of playing league one football, if Chamberlain tears the championship apart next season then i might form the opinion that Chamberlain will be a better player and go onto become a top 4 club, champions league and full international player, until then and you can make a like for like comparison based on the same standard of opposition it is very difficult to say, although of course if some people believe that the opposition doesn't matter when you have thisd great football brain whatever that may be. I am sure we should just send a few scouts out to watch sunday league pub football and pick up a few players from there as i am sure there are plenty of players turning out at Riverside Park every sunday morning who can make great decisions when playing against hungover, slow, over weight cart horses.
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Shut up you clown. How any one can compare one player who has 2/3rds of a season playing against Walsall and Dagenham to a player who is now a full England international and has spent the last 3 seasons playing regularly for a team who has finished top 4 in the premier league, scared the sh*t out od Barcelona, who are regarded as one of the greatest teams ever, scored a hatrick for England and scored at Wembley in a domestic cup final, yet argue that the League One prospect has a better football brain is laughable, unless of course you are the type of Saints fan that thinks Scott Parker, Micheal Owen and Shay GIven are falling over themselves to join us.
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Again it's difficult to judge this until Chamberlain has played for 6 months in the Championship. The gulf might not be huge but there is a gulf none the less. At 17 Walcott was THE best young player in England if not Europe, he was also the best player in the Saints team. He might not have gone onto become a world great like some expected but he is still a good international level player. With no disrespect to Chamberlain who is a very good young player, he isn't the best player in the current Saints team at the moment who have been playing the division below and he isn't the best young player in England. I really think only those looking through SFC tinted glasses can believe Chamberlain is better at the same age.
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That's alright then. Must be a few sunday league players that have scored a hatful this season who CDAJFU.
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So you are saying that when being marked by Gary Borrwdale or Ashley Cole, Chamberlain would make the exactly the same decisions? He'd be just as confident of skinning both, cutting inside them, etc etc.
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Does that mean lallana is better than Inestia because he scored more goals from midfield last season then?
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Err no, you said "when Chamberlaing plays for England" so guessing what he'll be like in 4 years time based on 2/3rds of a season in league one. How many players have set the championship alight yet never made it in the premier league? Koumas, Mcsheffery, Earnshaw etc etc. At 17 Walcott was the hotest property in European football, he had set the championship alight and has never had the honour of decision making against clubs as low as Walsall. Until Chamberlain has consistantly delivered at premier league, champions league and international level then and only then can people say he is a better player. Until then the assumption he has a better football brain than Walcott because he looked great against Carlise and Wallsall is absolutely ridiculous.
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It's so easy to compare when one is playing international and champions league football and the other has spent the season decision making against Dagenham and Redbridge, Wallsall and Oldhams left backs isn't it.
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Yellow, was the colour of the shirt worn by for Saints star Anders Svenson when he played for his county and also what he might if he was challenged to a fight by another irate customer for queue jumping whilst queuing to buy a two dine for £9.99 meal deal at M&S Hedge End. FACT.
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I am surprised Chamberlain is not playing for England this afternoon. I see that sprinter Walcott got a start, given a lot on here think Chamberlain has a better football brain than Walcott i am shocked Walcott has been prefered, sort it out Fabio FFS.
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Ricketts closer to signing than we thought then?
Turkish replied to Saint-Armstrong's topic in The Saints
Bet you wouldnt say that if they were both white.