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That's what i meant. This report is the first mention of it anywhere. No mention of it in any newspaper, the echo reported that one of their journalist was caught up in the middle of it surely he'd have seen these Saints fans spitting at Millwall, no mention on any internet forum, you tube doesnt show it etc etc. But then It's easier and looks better on them to blame it on Saints fan sparking it off rather than admit they let Millwall out and they started it.

Well indeed, pretty vile, If this did happen, it's the first mention of it anywhere.

It's an excuse. Just like after the Pompey game. Last time Millwall came down there was trouble up town. This time there were large numbers of Millwall lads in town all day, at one point a pub full of them was surrounded by police. There was an incident inside the ground. I really dont understand what further "intellegence" is needed.

Really? I thought it was the polices job to prevent disorder and to protect the public, not to get as many people banned from football as possible and if they have to lie, screw people over and make stuff up on the way it so be it.

I am sure some of the liberal elite on here will.

I am assuming this is a joke. There were 100+ Millwall "lads" in the Angel, many of them known and have been on bans in the past and the pub surrounded by old bill watching them closely. During the game Millwall attempt at kicking off inside the ground. What more f*cking intellegence do you need than an actual incident almost happening inside the ground??!! As has already been mentioned, they've got a full time banning officer now so he needs to be busy, a few bans for this one, make sure their funding is in place and their pal is kept busy. Not forgetting the big news article if and when a few do get banned with grand statements about this sort of behaviour not being tolerated. It's a f*cking joke. The whole thing about not keeping fans in as an infringement of civil liverties is a lot of shi*e. Since when has it stopped them stopping and searching people on the way to football? I've even had people i know lied to by the police about incidents that had happened just so they could take their details down. They have also shafted people in court with made up evidence to try to push bans through. The way Hampshire Old Bill are behaving towards football fans is a f*cking disgrace.

Too old FFS. We should be looking at the like of David Villa if we are serious about promotion.

That is the problem when you give working class kids instant riches. Just look at how many lottery winners f*ck up their lives because they are not mature enough to handle the money.

There is nothing in football that annoys me more than all the "premier league" talk. Sky is full of it, "since the premier league began" "xxxx amount of premier league titles" "the premier league years" programmes. WTF happened before 1991? It's like football didn't exist back then and was invented by Sky.

I do see your point. 10 years ago i wouldn't have dreamed of missing an England game, friday i went out for a meal with the misuss and some friends, tonight am i so uninterested i am seriously thinking of going to the gym instead of watching it. I just feel no affinity towards players like Cole, Terry, Lampard and co. England will probably win and qualify tonight and then the w*nk fest will follow up until next summer about how we can win it, our team of world class players etc as it does everytime we win a group containing world greats like Montenegro and Bulgaria, before we get embarassed by a team which can play football yet again. I dont want England to fail but it has happened so often after so much hype it has become expected and dare i say it, almost amusing.

Going on all of the comments i've seen so far i'd be happy for him to fall into the "decent back up" category.

Because people like yourself are still commenting and were happy to join the off topic debate. Anyway, it's back on topic now so feel free to resume.

I got chatting to a Celtic fan in the Grapes on friday night. His assessment of him was "utter sh*te" "one of the worst players i have ever seen" and "cant believe any club would sign him, especially one trying to get in the premier league" Make of that what you will.

I do this twice a week http://www.essentialkravmaga.co.uk/ Start about 3 months ago and love it. Gives a great work out as well as teaching you all sorts of fighting and self defence techniques. If that is too frightening for some of you delicate little flowers on here then I've found circuit training gets you fit quickly and you can do it anywhere. For a great all over circuit which you can do at home and will get you fit as f*ck try this. Between each excercise do 10 step ups. 10 x Press Ups 10 x Sit ups 10 x Jump Burpess 10 x lateral raises 10 x squats 10 x floor runs (10 on each leg) 10 x cruches 10 x power jacks 10 x dips 10 x heel touches when you've completed that, go through again with 9 x each excercise and 9 step ups inbetween, then 8, all the way down to one of each. Time yourself and try to beat your time every time you do it. I am doing a kettle bells course soon through my Krav Maga club, this is supposed to be an excellent form of excercise for improving fitness, strength and burning fat.I shall report back when done.

Super Nicky has raised the bar when it comes to chairman. The only ones i would say comes remotely close is Niall Quinn as a former player of the club and Steve Gibson a fan of the club who has put his cash in, but they are a long way behind. Worst five. Ashley, Bates, Risdale, Barry Fry, Storey (Okay MD but he was running the club)

Small and descreet ones can be very sexy, like a small one on the ankle, wrist or boobs. ANything on the upper arm, shoulder or lower just makes them look like a rough, vile tramp.

It was neither childish nor point scoring. Someone made a statement i didn't agree with and was asked to back it up with examples. This is how a debate work Suzy.

I agree with this. What is the point of keeping yourself in shape, looking after yourself and having a bit of pride in your appearance and well being? come to think of it why bother washing, cleaning your teeth and shaving as well? There really isn't point if you're in a realtionship and have been for ages, it's not like you still want your partner to find you attractive and not have the very thought of the rod attached to your dirty, sweaty, grotesque, badly conditioned body stuck in her making her sick to the pit of her stomach is it.

When all else fails fails there is always the option to bail out of a debate with the standard cyber hardman gag.

Anyone that wastes three days trying to prove for every one big money transfer that works 10 fail then lists free transfers, loans and Scott Minto as evidence of this deserves to be condescended to.

Know as the tramp stamp. Bet it looks great.

Please explain. Are you being racist again?

Ha mate, no i opened it at home!! No worries!!

I've never had a real life friend before. What sort of things do real life friends do? Do you think i might one day get a real life girlfriend? I've had plenty of innernetzz girlfriends before, when they tell me about their vaginas being damp it makes my trousers swell. What is it like to see a real life one?