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No. I, like everyone else on here, believe in live and let live.

Good post. But you are posting it in the wrong place mate. THis isn't the forum for realism. Unless you say we need a 45k stadium and are on an unstoppable march to the champions league you are being negative.

Hmm, not quite. We played well in the first half, the second half and especially after they scored we just pumped it into the box, looked clueless. It was that sort of lack of guile and panicking when we couldn't steam roller a team which led me to think we'd bottle it in the play offs.

To be honest after that result i didn't think we'd go up.

I'm not. You said there was no evidence we were after a striker, other than the Itkers on here. This is incorrect, is it not?

So there was evidence we were after a striker then, right? So your post saying there wasn't was bullsh*t, right?

You've missed the point mate. Le God Third Coming said there was NO evidence we were after a striker......

Newpapers reported said Chamberlain was going to Arsenal this summer. It was dismissed as bullsh*t and mischief making. Make of that what you will.

If papers dont make up stories then clearly we bid for a striker, Beckford and Rodriguez, which means Nige wanted to sign one. NIge is on record as saying we pulled out of the SHarp deal so that is 2 we bid on. I thought you said there was no proof we had bid for a striker apart from a few "feckwit itkers on here"???

Lets hope so. If he isnt then he is a totally pointless signing. So i take it you aren't expecting him to be the new Micheal Svenson either then??

No, i'll give him a fair chance, like i do with all our players and i wont get on his back. You've got to admit it though, that on paper this doesn't look like the proven championship/PL potential defender we were looking for, does it.

He said he might be as good as or better than Svenson. The fact that Svenson was an international when we signed him and our Celtic reserve isn't and as is older suggests as good as Micheal Svenson he aint and is never going to be.

He is 29. Has played 160 games in his career, hardly outstanding over 8 years. Copenhagen had him on loan for 11 games and decided not to sign him- that his his experience at the top club in Denmark. He played 7 times for celtic in two season and is deemed not good enough. MS on the other hand was 27 and a full swedish international. Call me a pessismist but it dont look likely. I hope i am wrong though.

At 29 do you not think that ship might have sailed? It's not like he's a 20 year old, he's at or past him best in anything, which by the looks of it wasn't much anyway.

Ahh, those papers making up stories again then, damn them! Just like they were making up the Chamberlain to Arsenal stories.

Premier league clubs loaning players from championship should be banned. It's a joke.

How can this be? According to some on here we dont talk to any player or agent until a bid is accepted, thats why we pull out of deals at the last minute when we find out their wage demands.. How would he know if we had bid or not?

So are you saying we never bid for Beckford then? If we did then we were in did trying to sign a striker. Something you appear to dispute further up.

It's not a question of believing it or not. We are losing or pulling our of a lot of deals. It is a fact. BTW i'm still waiting for your other players to prove your 1 in 10 works theory.

Yep, all paper stories are made up, Just like the Mirror was making it up all summer Chamerberlain would join Arsenal.

It really is black and white though isn't it. We are continually pulling out of or losing deals at the 11th hour. Right or wrong?

That went well then!! We do seem to love pulling out of deals dont we. Still not getting it about Rodriguez. You're going to have to try harder. Or are you saying at the last minute he went "all girly" and decided he didn't want to leave his comfort zone? Either way it all seems a little strange. A club persuing a player who didnt want to join it or another deal stopped at the 11th hour due to someone elses fault.

Err the fact that he tried to sign Sharp, Rodriguez & Beckford. Wake up son, come on, where have you been all summer? Or do the papers just make up stories about bids going in and being rejected?

So why persue him for months then?!!! It's been a total waste of time. You dont seriously believe we never spoken to his agent at all during the summer, or Cork and Fox didn't have an offline chat with him which was fed back do you?? Something doesn't add up.

Okay let me spell it out. It's quite clear that Nige identified centre half and striker as priority areas to strengthen. We have been trying to sign a striker for 3 months who apparantly had no intention of joining us anyway. Does this not appear a total waste of time and effort? Who is to blame for this? Someone should be. We've had three decent centre halves all at the club willing to sign for us, yet none of them have happened. We've ended up with some loanee that cant get anywhere near Celtics first team. Is this not concearning? The signings we've made have been good, Cork is a class act. However, we have failed to strengthen two key areas of the side we have been proactively trying to strengthen all summer. Each and every time a deal has fallen through it's been someone elses fault. The agent. The player. The selling club. At the same time managers and agents have come out saying we are very difficult to deal with. Do all these things not lead you to believe that the problem might in fact be us??