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You do make me laugh you c***, thats why i campaigned for your return. :lol:

All bit hopeful though isnt it Jamie? Hoping teams dont keep up their level of performance, hoping we improve, hope we sign players to improve, hope Lambert comes good, when there is nothing to suggest any of this will happen. Hope is what you cling to when you have nothing else. Also dont forget teams like Carlise and Bournemouth will make use of the loan window too.

We are on 28 played 19, 1.47 a game, over a season over a course of a season that is 67 points.

only an idiot would claim this league is as strong as last season.

We are also 10th and dont forget, all the teams around us and above us have two games in hand on second as well.

Okay mate, It is a fact that we played two top six championship sides as two of our 19 games last year, and also Millwall, now a mid table championship side and the top 3 sides in league one last season. The league is withour question weaker now than it was last season.

I agree with what you say Jamie, but the simple fact is that people with the red and white tinted glasses on claim we are progressing etc when the facts PROVE we are not. We are not going to go up if we keep performing as we have been this season. A season where our chairman has described promotion as essential. I for one am getting a bit tired with all this talk about visions and planning etc, we need to stop thinking about the premier league, champions league and the bizarre claims from some that we can be as big as liverpool and concentrate on getting out of this sh*t league.

Well, this time last year we had just lost away at Leeds who are now second in the championship and a couple of months prior had drawn at home against now 5th in the championship Norwich when at the same time this year we had just beaten 19th place Notts County so you could argue that we have had easier games this season.

Indeed, but despite all the claims that we are progressing, the facts dont back this up. We have less points in a weaker league, unless we progress significantly in the next few months we will not be promoted. We have not progressed in a year, this is a fact.

despite your flippant response. It is a fact that we have less points than last season in a league that is weaker. That is a fact, therefore we are not progressing at all. If we had progressed we would have more points than last season and you'd like to think given the league is weaker, considerably more points than at the same stage.

I thought a managers job was to get the team performing and winning? My mistake. And dont think January is going to be the godsend and the answer to all our prayers. Cortese has already set our expections by saying dont expect to much to happen. If we get 3 signings we should be happy.

Not just him, the team as a whole have massively underperformed.

Everyone else has two game in had as well. we averaged 2 points a game after xmas last season. We are on course for 67 points this season, 7 less than last including a 10 point handicap. Also the league is most definitely weaker, three good sides gone as proven that Norwich and Leeds are both in the top 6 of the championship now. If we had progressed surely we should have taken more points in a weaker division.

This season Played 19 - Points = 28 - position = 10th Last season Played 19 - Points 29 - Realtime position ( not inc -10pts ) = 9th _______________________________________________________________ Just for all you people who think we are making great progress... we're actually going backwards.

Not quite true, surely you would want people being told they cant be peados, rapists, murders, terrorists etc?

As Matthew Le God has posted Liverpool in the 2nd tier... 1955 - 36k 1956 - 37k 1957 - 35k 1958 - 38k 1959 - 36k 1960 - 30k 1961 - 29k 1962 - 39k Do you think if we were wining the league and champions league we would attract crowds of 75K+ the size of Man Utd, Real Madrid and Barcelona? Comparing us to Liverpool is madness, utter, utter madness. In fact it's madder than there with the 'Rickie Lambert should play for England' campaign on here.

Come on TDD, you should know by now that at the mature age of 18, Superdoopermikey has an opinion on everything, has experienced everything and knows all there is too know. He is an authority on homosexuality in the armed forces because as a virgin with 0 days experience in the military he is well qualified to speak on this subject.

Do you think they players have to buy cakes at training on their birthdays? I hope not, that is a lot of extra calories with 3 birthdays and we have some important games coming up.

Comparing us to Liverpool is utter madness, Liverpool, however well or badly they are playing are one of the biggest clubs in the world, Saints are not.

Beckham is the classic case of someone who hasn't got it but claims they have. From his interview i saw discussing it he likes having his socks lined up and the labels on the jars in the fridge to be facing forwards. All this says to me is that he is not a nutter with a compulsive disorder, just that he is a perfectionist who likes things neat a tidy. I dont see him missing movie premiers with Tom Cruise because he has to check the tins are all lined up properly in the cupboard, it's a lot of nonsense IMO. Until a few years ago no one had heard of OCD, yet Beckham claims to have it now all of a sudden every f***** that has a routine or a habit is looking at their own behaviour thinking "oh i think i've got that too". Another one that cracks me up is these Celebrities who claim to have sex addiction because they cant stop ****ging tarts that throw themselves at them. It's absolutely ridiculous, 99% of straight men would be tempted if an attractive women offered no strings attached sex, but not all men think they are gods, untouchable and can do what they like. Plus with their money & lifestyle they have more opportunity than your average bloke on the street stuggling to pay bills with kids and a proper job. To say they are addicted to sex is utter joke and yet another example of the modern society giving people kop outs and excuses to make them not be responsible for their actions.

A lot of people think i have a split personality but me and him know thats not true.

Yet amazing how this "condition" has become more popular since David Beckham claimed to have it. Every young kids has issues like that, its part of growing up. I used to walk on the lines of tiles on the pavement because if i didn't i thought they would open me up and swallow me. Probably more to do with one of my older brothers telling me that would happen when i was really young rather than some medical condition, but did that give me OCD about it?

Like with many of these "conditions" i dont doubt there are genuine and extreme cases. As usual though everyone seems to jump on the bandwagon and claim to have it to some degree. My "OCD" includes rinsing the plates in warm water on both sides twice before washing them up and then again twice after before leaving them to dry, i also am constantly checking my pockets for my phone and wallet even though i have often be sat in the same place for an hour or so, does that mean i have got mild OCD as well or just a couple of habits that i've done for years? No doubt some will claim the former.

Another condition which has suddenly risen and become fashionable. By OCD alot of people simply mean habits. You know, things that everyone does and has to some extent, yet can now claim to have it and label it with a medical condition and be just like David Beckham as he has it too. FFS

FFS dont bring your bigoted views on here, you have the cyber lynch mob after you