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So he’s been banned for posting something you and other people don’t like even though it’s correct. Incredible.

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Parenting uncomfortable truths to club cheerleaders doesn’t make me a troll pal

Exactly the same thing happened when they beat man city, for their first goal a clear handball in the area was ignored and they broke down the other end and scored.

Because I’m still absolutely amazed you’re trying to argue that as a general rule the better the player is the more they cost. Obviously there will be some exceptions and we can all point to individual signings that cost a lot and haven’t worked and cheap ones that have.

There are far more examples of players costing More and being better. It’s an absolute ridiculous to try and prove otherwise.

Matthew I’m not going to keep repeating myself I’ve already addressed this point too. Obviously there are exceptions and sometimes you can get a bargain abut the better the player the more they cost more. That’s why Mbeppe cost £140m and josh sims is out on loan. And no I’m not saying saints should go and spend £40m on a random foreigner we’ve never heard of.

Quality costs money, that’s why better players cost more. It’s not hard.

Well if we’re going to play that game which player is better Ronaldo or Paul Moody?

Which player is better Ronaldo or Will Hughes? Which player cost more?

Just because you don’t like the content doesn’t mean it’s untrue pal

What a ridiculous post. Are you struggling now you’re having to resort to this? If you want proven quality you have to pay for it, otherwise it’s a gamble, sometimes you find a diamond sometimes you find a load of mud. As I posted about a Mane or Van Dijk level player now costs a lot more than we paid for them 4 years ago, but we’re still shopping in that price bracket so it’s no surprise the vast majority of the players we’ve signed since them haven’t been anywhere near as good.

Thanks you’ve just proven my point which I got told was a dumb comment by one of goas cheerleaders Our record transfer fee is c£21m, we’d need to break our transfer record just to sign a competent premier league player.

I posted it above I’m not going to post it again. We were meant to be bring in a new transfer person last summer too, never happened.

We have reduced the wage bill, by nearly £200k a week in the last 12 months. What’s your point?

Also just for the record this is the first transfer window I’ve moaned about our lack of activity. I get your point about deadwood but perhaps in the majority but the players who have played out of their skin for the last eight weeks are the same ones who were costing us points every week for the last 3 years. When I see the club making record profits, slashing nearly two hundred thousands of the weekly wage bill and the squad still being weakened with fans rushing to defend how great it all is you di start to wonder what the hell is going on.

Seems like we can’t sign anyone permenantly until we’ve sold every player on our books who isn’t a first team player. Mental.

We’ve made a profit on transfers so make a list of what we spent would only disprove your point further. Not really sure why it’s daft to add a bit of quality to the squad. I’ve never really met a football fan before who wants his club not to sign better players.

I’m really not sure what you can’t understand pal. / big Part of our “sustainable model” has been to buy players from foreign leagues for a fee somewhere between £12-£20m with no experience of the premier league. By and large that part of our model has been an absolute disaster for the last four years. Arguably our two most successful signings in recent season have been players from British leagues who are not a typical saints type signing. Then to cap it all we’re paying these players far more than their worth, can’t get rid of Them which hampering our ability to recruit talent we do want. So the proof is in the pudding, one of if not the most important element of any business model, recruitment, has been an absolute shambles. That ain’t a sustainable model. And yes of course I agree with proper a sustainable model, give me Mane or Van Dijk for a couple of years and sell them for 3, 4, 5 times what we paid for them, then do it all again f*cking brilliant. The problem comes though when you don’t have that quality of player in. A player that cost £15m in 2016 costs £30m today but we haven’t moved with the times, we’re still shopping the football equivalent of TK Maxx hoping to find a John Smedley jumper in a rack of Georgio Georgious sweaters and as a result we’re stuck with the crap we’ve got since. So the short term question is this. We are where we are, a very good manager with a bang average squad lacking in Depth quality. Our back up is basically our youth team in a lot of positions who most people agreed only a short time ago wasn’t up To much. Do you hope to survive doing the bare minimum every season, let down the manager, fans and or do you gamble a bit and try to bring in two or three players of quality every year in the positions you’ve desperately needed them in and who can get you out the mess and with it push you up the league? So to answer you point yes I’m all for a sustainable business model long term, but short term it hasn’t worked and we need to do something else to fix the errors of the past 4 years because sell to buy isn’t going to do it. We’ve made 70 bleeding million pre tax profit the last two year so surely short term to get out of the mess is it really to much to ask that we don’t have to make a profit from every single frigging transfer window and we actually sign a couple of player who can improve the first team? And yes we can sell them in two years time for £80m if all goes well and Goa And his band of merry men can smile all the way to bank

Isn’t impact!

In the last year we’ve got off the wage bill Davis Gabbiadini Austin Targett Gallagher Clasie Cédric Yoshida Plus whatever we’re saving on loans of Elyounoussi, Forster, Lemina and Hoedt. I conservatively estimate that at around £400k a week of the wage bill not including the loanees And brought in only Djenepo, Ings, Adams and the pointless Danso Which is estimate at about £175k a week, so we’ve slashed about £11.7m off the wage bill in the last 12 months.

Im not confusing anything pal. The two go hand in hand. If your recruitment policy is deeply flawed and you consistently recruit staff who are over paid and underperforming which Is hampering your ability to make other decisions then that isn’t a sustainable business model. A football team though is very different to running a normal business, everyone knows you need depth, competition for places plus quality and experience in certain positions. Every single club in the premier league also has a number of big money bad signings, but that doesn’t seem to force them having to sell to buy.

I haven’t developed that at all. I’m very realistic in that I we don’t have pots of money but I find it incomprehensible that we’ve gone into a transfer window saying we need to strengthen the defence and come out if weaker. I find it incomprehensible that we can’t compete with clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth in the transfer market when we’ve been in the premier league far longer and only ever spent what we’ve earned from player sales. And most of all I find it incredible that people who defend the club put the reason for this down to us having a lot of crap players on big contracts and insist we’re a well run club with a sustainable model. It simply isn’t the case.

Well he’s been here three windows, during each window he’s said he wants to bring players in and then at the end of it he’s said he’s content after it hasn’t happened, call me cynical but I would say he’s just toeing the line. I’m not really sure how things can change so dramatically based on a home win against a crap championship team.

Why is it unrealistic to quote what the manager has said on several occasions and point out it hasn’t happened? Why is it unrealistic to point out that we are the only club that has to sell to buy players and has made a profit from transfers? Why is it unrealistic to point out that our record transfer fee is the 3rd lowest of all current premier league clubs? Why is it unrealistic that having been in the premier league for 7 years we should be able to spend more than Watford, Bournemouth, Brighton, crystal palace and Newcastle? Why is it unrealistic to suggest that the fact that with all of the above being true the mantra “we’re a well run club” simply isn’t true?