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It wasn't me asking why a verse about murderers was relevant in a discussion about murderers. 🤣

Shall we add the word "relevant" to the list of words you dont understand?

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Are you seriously asking me to explain how a verse saying murders wont inherit gods kingdom is relevant on a thread where we've been discussing if a serial murderer can get forgiveness on death row? COme on Matthew, you're meant to have a masters degree!!!

The bible has more than one verse pal Galatians 5:21 King James Version 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

If they believe it to be literally true then they will also believe that murders will not inherit gods kingdom. So therefore cannot commit murder after murder then say sorry on death row. Yet again you prove me right.

Oh dear, Matthew now resorts to trying to take the intellectual high ground, you'll be mentioning your masters degree next! When all else fails try to make out they aren't as clever as you. 🤣

So you dont know then, fair enough thought not, yet another claim with no substance.

Simply pointing out the one sided argument pal, he's quoted lots of ones that say about repenting of sins but ignored the ones which give the command not to kill and those that do will not inherit gods kingdom. Which is inconsistent with the claim that a serial murderer on death row can be forgiven over a bucket of fried chicken.

So how many? Quantify huge.

So like i said, his opinion is a mimickry, his opinion is the opinion of someone else. Thanks for proving me right. Putting a log of numbers into a spreadsheet for a computer game is not having an opinion.

He didn't give an opinion, he gave the opinion of Sam Harris. He even used his words. I know you struggle to have an opinion too so no surprises you two are getting on.

How many believe this?

Did you forget to include the many ones about commanding not to murder and those that do will not inherit gods kingdom?

Another assumption and not checking your facts properly my friend! You really should ask more questions rather than assume. Im simply pointing out the flaws in your heroes arguments, The ridiculous claim that a serial rapist and murder can have a bowl of fried chicken on death row and ask god for forgiveness and will spend eternity living in heaven as just one example.

Another assumption and not checking your facts properly my friend! You really should ask more questions rather than assume. Im simply pointing out the flaws in your heroes arguments, The ridiculous claim that a serial rapist and murder can have a bowl of fried chicken on death row and ask god for forgiveness and will spend eternity living in heaven as just one example.

Then Rashford is a very bad example, as he grew up in the area with very poor parents, so can relate to exactly what he was supporting. I like Ricky Gervais and he does make some valid points sometimes, i like his stance of game killings for example. However the example our friend linked earlier is classic example of someone lapping up what someone they like has said because it confirms their view point without bothering to check any of the facts behind their claims.

not really sure what the link is between a footballer doing charity work and a comeidan cracking a few jokes at the expense of a priest.

Do you know what the difference is between a story and a claim?

I've included it because you opening question on this was claiming that anyone who quotes the bible was not original and using someone elses work. this is factually incorrect. You can quote the bible and have an original application, plenty of examples of this in history, quite different to our friend on this thread has simply shouted and point "Look what this guy said" without checking out any of his claims, it seems. Which was the point you seem to be failing to grasp. As for your second point, just 🤣 the good Samaritan story doesn't need to be checked out, because it was a story, a story Jesus used to illustrate the importance of kindness, kind of shows where you are with it all doesn't it, not quite at the races pal.

Your original question was every single time anyone quotes anything from the bible they are using someone else’s work and not being original. That simply isn’t true, you could build out a 20 minute talk or sermon from the Good Samaritan story, for example and apply that parable To people lives. That’s very different to quoting a few lines from a 11 minute speech by some bloke who you think is amazing, Because of confirmation bias, without checking his claims out properly. Which is what is going on here. Not hard to understand is it.

Yes really. The bible is more about principles, illustrations which you can then apply into your life. Of course some lunatics take it all literally but then some people will take a couple of lines from an inaccurate speech and pass it off as fact to suit their agenda.

Watching an interview with Gervais for example you don’t expect serious debate, you want humour and entertainment, which is exactly what you get. Not hard to work it out is it.

What do you expect? Most of the ones you list are trained actors, journalist or comedians who are coached to be good at public speaking and appealing to the masses. Most religious leaders are are naive men of cloth who have lived a cocooned life caring for their flock.