moonraker

For me the issue is not just about the death penalty, I am against it, but it is about a government minister reversing over 30 years of U.K. policy without any parliamentary debate, unprecedented and further evidence of the contempt this Tory government has for the sovereignty of our parliament, taking back control my arse.

Just out of interest, if the referendum had gone in favour of remain would have sucked it up and shut or like your mate Farage would it have been unfinished business, just asking.

Without doubt one of the best posts on this thread.

I don't understand the quitters opposition to a second referendum, if s they claim everything will still be sunny uplands and the will of the people is even stronger in favor of leave it would then they have nothing to fear. Democracy a continuous process not an event.

Have they, we may not have had Armageddon on day one, but major business is preparing to leave, growth has crashed, our currency is floundering, inward investment has plummeted, cost of living is rising fast, costs of Brexit are spiraling, simply we are poorer and more isolated as a nation it will only get worse if continue to pursue this gross act of self-harm . You might question the timing and scale of some of these negatives effect of Brexit but all were predicted. Conversely the promises of the leave campaign have all proven vacuous platitudes.

No he is not, JRM warns a no deal, he is even in a minority in his party.

Nothing to do with the apprentice levy. As someone who has designed and operated apprenticeships for 20 years the levy will benefit companies if they operate their apprenticeships properly, which I assure AIRBUS do and have done for many years. Typical LEAVER deflection tactic.

AIRBUs Cancelling all UK apprentice recruitment this year was not propaganda. They informed applicants two weeks ago, that’s high quality opperunitues for our youngsters gone, not a threat, not propaganda reality.

The Art of the Deal was written by Tony Schwartz, he has characterised it as putting lipstick on a pig! He has also stated “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.” Schwartz a young magazine writer also out-dealed Trump by securing 50% of the advance and 50% of the sales, ghost writers normally get 20% of each, so the great deal maker is no such thing, he was influenced by his ego not his business acumen (lack of it). The summit with Kim is also a farce as previous Presidents could have met with him but refused without Kim and previously his father ceasing all nucleate and ICBM research and development as a pre-requisite for a meeting. Trump is a chancer and self publicists who fools the fools easily.

And not just a flyby night, a genuine Saint.

Hounslow West, cheap all day parking at the tube station or loads of free on street within 10mins

Politicians are not experts. The denigration of "experts" is yet another sad consequence of the referendum. I am sure that you claim some competence in whatever it is you do to earn a crust, but would never deem yourself and expert for fear of your judgement being questioned. I am expert in spotting BS and you’re full of it. If we had another referendum with both sides telling the truth about the benefits leave would be mute, and indications (indications only I admit) is that it would be close but most likely in favor of remaining.

It is happening, slowly and inexorably, we have lower growth than Greece, our economy is weaker and weakening, re-read what I wrote. I am not an apologist for Cameron’s folly, there was never going to be a cliff edge but a slow decline, deny it all you like, it is happening.

Voting to leave the EU was never going to be an instant disaster it is death by a 1000 cuts, slowly and inexorably our economy is weakening, our NHS is declining, our opportunities are disappearing, and our standing in the world is fading. Still ideological leavers cling to the promise of sunlit uplands where the world opens its doors to all our needs, where trade deals are done before breakfast, German car manufacturers dictate EU policy, the USA give us preferential treatment, the Irish Border problem is not really a problem, the bus was not a lie, and are happy to be worse off and where taking back control does not actually include the UK Justice System and Parliament doing their job.

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Free on sky mix

Stoke equalise and relax

On a much smaller less significant scale and obviously less serious, at least to date, there has been a surge in street violence here in Bath, not murders, but unprovoked violence. The perpetrators caught to date do not match any of the above racial/ethnic profiles. The City no longer has Police Station! I think it is reasonable to conclude that reductions to police numbers and the resultant changes in operational tactics must be contributing to the increased violence, indeed increased crime overall. There has also been a reduction in other services designed to divert young people away from, shall we say, bad influences and behavior. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that the massive budget cuts over 8 years of austerity are not a significant causation of this worrying trend is either a little dim or far to tied to their politically ideology to see it.

Almost as good a start as reinstating the 20000 police officers the Tories have cut.

Boris is an embarrassment to this country. It is not a political opinion, but one based on his own actions and verbose linguistic style. In trying too be clever all he demonstrates is a complete lack of good sense and judgement. He courts publicity for his own ends. Politics aside he simply is not fit to hold one of the Great Offices of State.

Agree, but the question was about ones opinions of amazing places they had visited, for sheer variety, beauty, history and accessibility the British Isles really do take some beating (Portsea Island excluded).

Very difficult to narrow it down, ones that immediately come to mind are: Cities: Vancouver, London, Cape Town and Seville Beeches: Diego Garcia, The Gower, The French Atlantic Coast from Ile de Noirmoutier to Les Sables-d'Olonne. Scenery: West Coast of Scotland (when the sun is shining), Amalfi Coast, North Yorkshire Moors, Serra de Tramuntana Majorca. Historic: Pompeii, Valley of the Kings, Rome, Avebury. Also love Scandinavia, Brittany, and anywhere in Italy. Don’t have a bucket list, but have plans for: New England, Thailand, Singapore, Australia, Mexico, Gotland, in the next couple of years.

The usual suspects are jumping on the bandwagon again. Take a Daily Mail, Express, Sun headline and try to turn it into a cohesive intellectual argument. I have no love for Corbyn but nothing he has said can be justly construed as being anything other than the response of a responsible politician, as opposed to knee jerk lynch mob mentality of the aforementioned publications and the haste with which the mob rally to the call. It is highly likely that an agent of Russia is responsible for this awful crime, and that a robust response is required. The British way is to first gather evidence and test it in the public domain in this instance the behaviour of the press and mob is very un-British, ironic really when their oft claimed defence for distasteful articles is the protection of British values. So to the lynch mob please shut up and go away if you have nothing constructive to offer.

While the sacking is months overdue we are where we are. The new man must have experience of and understand the premiership we have no bedding in time. Hughes meets the fundamental requirement as well if not better than any other candidate available. The thing with managers is that the majority need to find the right club, Moyes at Everton as an example, who can say that Hughes and Saints won’t be a match made in heaven, if not we have lost nothing, if he is then humble pie will be the order of the day for many.

As someone at the tail end of the so called baby boomer era, born 1957, this discussion is a very sad one. Our society is becoming more divisive and polarised by the day, and to my mind at the heart of this is our outdated political system, and outdated political parties. The outdated 2 party system stifles real debate, the movement to the right and left has exposed much that is distasteful in our society; both sides are equally to blame, in their lust for power they choose to vilify and divide society. The printed media is grossly irresponsible and modern e-media has provided an anonymous platform for unpleasant and spiteful comment. Every generation has difficult challenges, the nature of those challenges change but each generation has to face them. The blanket labelling of older voters, as self-interested, uncaring and well off is as puerile as labelling our youth as rude, lazy and disrespectful. After 45 years later have paid tax, NI, contributed to my pension, paid of my mortgage and raised 6 children having been fortunate enough to have been gainfully employed the whole time. I am now contemplating retirement. I have planned and paid for a reasonable pension, but my income will reduce by well over 50%. Having started full time employment at 15 I will not receive a state pension until I am 66, without my own pension planning that would mean I would have to work for 51 years before receiving a retirement income. The majority of today’s generation do not start work until at least 18 and those who go to university don’t start until at least 21, more commonly 22 or 23 having taken a gap year (tell me what is that and how is it funded?).