hypochondriac

Sounds pretty awful but prepared to see what he is like- nothing wrong there. Celtic fans made him seem awful but I WAS PREPARED TO SEE WHAT HE WAS LIKE. Clearly the backup option- Certainly appeared that way at the time. Prepared to accept I was wrong although it is perfectly conceivable that he was our secondary target. Very disappointed TBH and what started as a promising window has gone downhill.- Certainly appeared that way at the time. IMO our excellent January window negated our lack of strength in depth in the summer. Thankfully we didn't have an injury crisis until November and December when our form suffered dramatically. we have to settle for Celtic's fourth choice CB which on the face of it doesn't sound very good at all.- On the face of it it didn't sound good. Ultimately it was Celtic's judgement that was found to be flawed. Then why have other managers been able to sign half decent players? Not sure what that is in response to, again I imagine I was commenting on initial feelings of disappointment stemming from the sources I have already mentioned. and we have a reserve team CB to show for it when what we desperately needed was real quality next to Fonte to form a partnership. - again, no evidence of writing him off. Expressed disappointment based on the initial facts. Nice to see I am getting a bit less abuse than normal. I have been totally consistent throughout the window, a quality permanent CB and optionally a striker was what was needed and for whatever reason, if we are honest with ourselves we haven't delivered in the market in that area - I still believe we could have got a topclass striker in the summer and if we lose out on promotion, that dip in form could prove very costly. Quite prepared to admit I should not have said that Jos was not quality. Based on my previous comments though, it is obvious that I was basing those comments on the evidence available. I had already said I am prepared to give him a chance. we have wasted an opportunity to push on from our great start - and ultimately that blip in November and December could still prove costly. I hope he will do a decent job despite my initial feelings of disappointment- The clearest evidence yet that I hoped he would do a good job and that whilst I was initially disappointed, I was prepared to give him a chance. It's what I said from the beginning. So in those quotes, only once did I make a judgement about Jos' quality for us, the rest were based on an initial judgement from the Celtic fans. For the comment about Jos' future ability I do apologise but at the time AS I HAVE SAID CONSISTENTLY I was initially disappointed but prepared to give him a chance.

First class response. I must commend you on that.

Precisely. There is a very obvious distinction between looking at the available facts and forming an initial opinion or making an initial prediction whilst being very open to revise that opinion once more information has become available (such as seeing a player play), and writing off a players chances before they have kicked a ball. I'm not particularly surprised that the same old faces do not understand this and it's happening with Lee now (though I happen to believe that Lee looks very good)

Who wrote him off before he kicked a ball? If you think there were numerous people writing him off (not me, since the FIRST comment I made about him stated that whilst it seemed disappointing, I was prepared to give him a chance and see how he did) then I'm sorry TDD but once again you are the one talking rubbish. He has been really great this season and shown that Celtic fans were too hasty to write him off, something that I did not do before he had played for us.

My exact position is the same now as it was at the time. I said it countless times but the likes of yourself still continue to read what they want to read. I was underwhelmed by Jos signing based on the Celtic fans and what they said about him. At no point did I write him off. I'm not sad enough to go back and find the first comment I made about Jos but it was something like 'pretty underwhelmed but I'm prepared to give him a chance and I hope he comes good.' Rewrite history all you like but those are the facts.

Based on the comments of the Celtic fans yes. So at no point did anyone write Jos off either before he kicked a ball or subsequent to that. In fact, some said that although they were initially underwhelmed, they were more than prepared to give him a chance to see what he could do and hoped he did well.

No one dismissed Jos after a handful of games. They expressed initial reservations based on Celtic fan comments. Big difference.

This should happen.

I'm so glad that when we went down and in admin we went down with dignity even though e did support the team. This awful 12th man, 'pack the park' and 'fortress fratton' is the most cringeworthy thing I have ever heard. Why do they swallow this cr*p?

Lol. Incredibly deluded and pathetic. What would be most funny would be if they were docked some more points now.

Didn't doncaster just go bottom again?

Brilliant result. Lets win and reclaim our place!

Best West Ham score now.

No Puncheon starting? Shame.

Pretty sure people want to be in front of the queue to get out without actually leaving.

Jesus I wasn't expecting that response! Been on the vino art?

Why are you do worried about your Internet history art?

Does he owe us? We got 12-15 million in payment. I would say that is payment enough.

All that football league reply does is encourage club who overspend with a small squad to go into admin and then ignore their youth team and get in a load of premiership loans if they can persuade the other team to pay their wages. Seems grossly unfair still to those who actually live within their means.

Potentially interesting about a Japanese consortium. Lets be honest, it's perfectly plausible that the Liebherr family are not averse to selling. After all, the man who owned it has died.

Yes. It makes it a million times easier once you get used to it. Using it now!

I would.

You sound like a skate. How was the goal he scored lucky? I imagine he was not involved as A) he is a new player still adjusting to things over here and B) Nigel recognises it is a squad game and picks his sides with this in mind. Nothing in his very short appearances so far has or me to believe that all he has is pace and is really average. His work rate was brilliant and hassled players into making mistakes whilst he showed decent control a few times and scored a cracking goal. Give him a few games to show what he can do before calling him rubbish (a claim incorrectly levelled at myself on more than one occasion.)

Told you.

I guarantee it will be one of the least exciting pieces of information of the year so far.