hypochondriac

So in your view, the reason that there weren't boos for something like kick it out is because the fans didn't notice it was happening? Had there been greater awareness of it do you think there would have been boos?

Which clearly wasn't my point as you well know.

What is it about the taking of the knee do you think that is different from other supposed anti racist campaigns at football that has provoked such a markedly different and at times hostile reaction? You'd think that the same fans loudly expressing their opposition would have reacted in a similar manner to other similar campaigns if they were all racist like has been claimed. Why did Millwall fans boo the knee taking and then applaud a separate gesture about tackling racism the following week?

Fair enough mate I wasn't expecting such a genial reply.

I say that it has raised racial tensions because that is what the polling tells us. There's clear evidence to say that is the case.

I say that it has raised racial tensions because that is what the polling tells us. There's clear evidence to say that is the case.

I'm sure the persecuted and whistle blowers throughout the world would welcome your stance on the removal of online anonymity.

Yes it is possible for it to have a positive effect. Polls however have suggested the opposite. You believe it has had a positive effect but have yet to provide evidence for that claim.

Also totally shocking that the BBC chose to "stonewall" one of their own investigative journalists. What do they have to hide?

Great Post. That's the issue exactly.

Absolutely fascinating and fantastic investigative journalism from someone inside the BBC no less! It exposes how laughable the BBC have been with their claims of impartiality and highlight how insidious Stonewall as an organisation are. Shocking but a must listen: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09yk1fy

What's your evidence that taking the knee has influenced people to be less racist?

And taking the knee has influenced public opinion in a positive way?

What's the goal then? Its working in what way? Because the surveys on the matter suggest that racial relations have been made worse by it.

Instigates conversations that has led to people feeling more divided on racial lines than they were before if we are to believe the surveys.

I've literally never heard of nemi. Seems to be reacting to an awful lot.

No problem really with those who are open about their views. Pretending to have someone on ignore though and then in reality reading and reacting to loads of their posts is absolutely pathetic.

Incredibly interesting. Looking at a few other threads and just as I suspected, one side of the argument has a large range of diverse voices signalling they agree and the other side its the same group of about five posters signalling their scorn. I think we can guess which side that is!

Well now isn't this a fascinating new feature. It seems that Mr "has me on ignore" soggy has reacted to a number of my posts too. How curious! It's almost like it was total bollocks all along...

Extending beyond race and gender. What does it mean? Disability? Bmi?

No. I never said that either did I but I'd wager that those who have a real hatred of women are more likely not to have had any daughters. Undoubtedly having a young daughter gives you a greater appreciation of their perspective on things. That doesn't mean that everyone who has daughters isn't a woman hater or that those with a lot of experience of Black people can't be racist.

Thought you had me on ignore? I never said that you can have no understanding, I said that people who interact with other ethnicities more frequently are much more likely to have a grasp of their experiences and understand their thinking. Using your analogy, I'd give more credance to someone's views on concentration camps if they regularly interviewed or spoke to concentration camp survivors. You seem to be saying that you'd give equal weight to someone who wanted to lecture people about concentration camp conditions because they'd watched a YouTube video and got their shoes shined once a year from someone whose uncles cousin visited Auchwitz on a school trip. I've repeated my views on racism in football ad nauseum so no need to repeat it again. You know what the answer is.

I'd say the more non white people you have relationships with, the greater the chance you have of understanding their perspectives and opinions on matters including things like race. What's hilarious is soggy lecturing others on racism and what the correct behaviour is when he has very little daily interaction with anyone who isn't white apart from his barber.

I think keep in touch or just above the relegation zone and then get some creativity in January.

What's the definition of a woman soggy?