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Agree not sure why he'd want to come to us. If there's even a small chance though he should be top of our list. I thought he'd be trying for the England job.

To come to saints? Last I heard he wanted the west ham job and I can't see him ever coming here but if there was a chance we should bite his hand off.

Absolutely. I don't think he cares at all about Southampton - he's had little digs at the fans throughout his time here. I think Martin is really good at the PR side and saying the right things but he'd jump ship tomorrow if he thought he could get a leg up.

I don't know. He would be able to point to examples of managers who have followed similar paths and found success (ange and kompany are two.) He would probably argue that he would be successful now if he had a better quality of player.

Young people today do not have enough respect for traditional British values- Bit of a generalisation but in general that is correct. Migrants coming to the United Kingdom across the English Channel should all be immediately removed from the United Kingdom and prevented from ever returning- 100% correct. No one jumping the queue and crossing the channel in that manner should be allowed to stay here. The sentences that the courts hand down to people who have been convicted of crimes are not harsh enough- Not sure about this. Again it's a generalisation but there are certainly some crimes that I think are punished too harshly whilst some are not punished harshly enough. Multiculturalism has made the UK worse - Not sure I entirely agree with this but undoubtedly there are a lot of examples of multiculturalism being a net negative in areas of the UK. Personally I would say the amount and rate introduced has been the issue rather than multiculturalism itself. Rich people in the UK are able to get around the law or get off more easily than poorer people- I would imagine the majority on this forum would agree with that. If you have more money or status or are a politician you are much more likely to get off crimes that others would get prosecuted for When it comes to defence spending, the government should spend more on defence- Yep. With world politics as they are at present this is common sense. The death penalty in the UK should be permitted for some crimes- I don't personally support this but it's not an outlandish view to have. Big businesses in the UK take advantage of ordinary people- Definitely true in a number of cases. Most on the forum would agree. Ordinary working people do not get their fair share of the nation's wealth- Again I assume the likes of soggy would agree with this. Utilities like energy, water and railways should be run in the public sector- This is pretty much a labour policy When it comes to transgender status, people in Britain should not be able to legally change their gender- totally correct and currently this is the law. Rich people in the UK should be taxed more than average earners- Another Labour policy that would be supported by most on here. The NHS should be able to use private companies to provide treatment alongside its own services- Complete common sense as long as it is done in the right way. Same sex couples should be allowed to get married- Surprisingly progressive views from Reform voters and certainly more so than some religious groups. So other than maybe multiculturalism and the death penalty, what is so unreasonable about these views?

Oh well played. You said ridiculous bullshit and people stopped and laughed at you. Looks like you got us!

I wouldn't be so sure. He specifically mentioned Big Ange as an example of someone who has stuck to his way of playing and that has got him to a Champions League team. It's not that he wants to get saints to the Champions League, he thinks that ultimately sticking to these principles will allow him to climb higher and it will ultimately be good for his career to do so.

Of course.

It came up because an MP is trying to get a law passed to ban it and some posters on here seem hellbent on defending the practice.

Labour still 'going for growth' with the economy shrinking once again.

Hi soggy I ignore for a moment that you've again ignored my question despite hammering nutty Nic for days on end because he wouldn't answer yours. Have you got any examples from anyone born in the last 100 years? Ideally in the last thirty would be better when morals were more closely aligned with those of today. The thing is all the examples you've cited lived when child labour was still legal and it was fine to send them out to work but presumably you wouldn't consider that fine nowadays.

Ironic that he spent all of last week digging out nutty nick for refusing to answer his questions...

Whereas absutely no one is a fan of anything you say and you're also a lying narcissistic scumbag. Must sting.

That makes perfect sense because I love black people and Jews.

You didn't answer the question. Do you support sibling sex? If not why not?

Hi soggy great to hear from you. Are you supportive of siblings shagging? If not why not?

All of them do because they perpetuate a culture where it is acceptable. Why do we ban marriages between siblings or between a parent and a child? Given that cousin sex is a growing problem in the UK and that someone has proposed a law which will decrease the level of birth defects and disabled children born, is this something you would support in principle, even if you don't think it's prevelant enough to worry about?

Again, why does that matter? Lots of things have not been widely held views historically but it doesn't make something less wrong. It's not something we have had to confront in the past because the numbers engaging in the practice have been so tiny. That is now no longer the case.

Holden said that while the overall prevalence of first-cousin marriage was low in Western countries, certain diaspora communities, such as Irish travellers and British Pakistanis, had "extremely high rates" of 20-40%. The MP for Basildon and Billericay cited research suggesting the child of first cousins carries around double the risk of inheriting a serious disorder compared to the child or unrelated people. Holden also argued the practice threatened women's freedom. "Women and girls living under a clan mentality often know the scientific risks of first-cousin marriage, but make considered social and cultural calculations," he told MPs. So we could have up to 2 million British Pakistanis in the UK. So that's potentially children from as high as a million couples by some estimates. Even half that number is a huge amount of people. Surely we should be seeking to make this practice socially unacceptable and doing whatever we can reasonably do to lower the risks of birth defects as well as the added strain on the health service.

I'm worried about the increasing negative impact it is having as more and more individuals in the UK are marrying their first cousins and the potential for problems that can cause. It's not about my happy marriage to someone who isn't a blood relative.

Would you extend that thinking to siblings? Or mothers and sons? It's the same logic surely. If a brother and a sister fall in love and want to get married then it's up to them?

Right. Doesn't change anything though it should still be banned obviously. Any reasonable action you can take to stop people marrying their fist cousins is a positive surely?

Indeed it shouldn't need a law to stop it but it's happening at an increasing rate and is becoming more of a problem so a law would be a sensible thing yes?

And?

I would have thought if we are unable to agree on much, we would at least be able to agree unanimously that fucking your cousin in 2024 is not something anyone should be doing and that a law prohibiting it will have an effect in reducing the practice which is unambiguously a positive thing. Instead some have said it's not a big issue, that Queen Victoria and Jews do it, that it's not illegal in some other countries so it's not that bad and that we should instead consider genetic testing to allow the cousin fucking to continue.