hypochondriac

Words are cheap and it's his previous action or lack of action that he is judged by.

I can't see how. Now that the hard left have taken over he will simply be replaced by a similar mouthpiece. The only way we will get a more moderate opposition will be if the party implodes, splits or actually gets in power and is subsequently rejects a few years down the line.

You're just being wilfully ignorant now. There's a huge different between introducing a topic and discussing it's wider context and continually engaging in whataboutism and pointing fingers at other political parties in almost every post whenever the topic of anti semitism is raised on a thread about Labour. I know you know the difference and your long posts talking about my post history are just another deflections tactic to avoid labour's anti semitism problem. In related news, I see corbyn has come out with another bone headed statement this evening that has been condemned as wholly inadequate.

Stop following me around the board soggy.

That would make sense if there was a natural evolution of this thread to discuss the tories. The fact is there hasn't been and time and time again corbynistas including yourself have done everything they can to change the topic from the problems within the Labour Party. Of course different topics can be discussed in threads but that isn't what has happened here. Your agenda is clear and corbynistas clearly want to do everything other than discuss anti-semitism within the Labour Party nor the fact that they haven't adopted the definition because Corbyn himself would be guilty of anti-semitism under that definition. Watch now as you go and write another post about a separate political party or attack me for something unrelated to Labour.

On a thread about Corbyn and Labour, numerous posts not addressing any of the issues regarding Labour and instead trying to focus on wrongdoing in the Tory party. Just comes across as complete deflection I'm afraid.

It appears that on a thread about Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party, corbynistas can barely make a single post without referencing the tory party. You'd think they'd be more interested in their own party than the stuffy old tories.

Highlighting hypocrisy has nothing to do with snowflakes.

The kind and progressive politics of the tolerant left.

We were talking about it because this is a topic called "Jeremy Corbyn and the death of the Labour Party". Its hardly surprising that a topic called that would primarily be about things that are happening in the Labour Party. Continually trying to move the topic away from the Labour Party on a topic about the Labour Party is perverse.

Ain't that the truth! Nail on the head there.

But we weren't, we were talking about the problem of anti-semitism in the labour party. Just because every post from a Corbynista is seeking to exapnd the topic to other political parties in order to dilute what is clearly a serious issue doesn't mean that that was what was being talked about. Defenders of Corbyn seem unable to discuss the anti-semitism in the Labout party without also discussing unrelated unsavoury elements within other political parties.

Some of the apologism, whataboutery and frankly denial on here is very amusing. All it would take to largely solve this stuff is to adopt the definition of anti-semitism in full and to take a hardline disciplinary stance against anyone who airs views that fall within that definition. They don't do that though and I wonder why that is? They may eventually adopt it after this entire PR nightmare but it's extremely telling how slow they have been to actually take any of this seriously. Nobody seriously believes that their failure to properly implement the definition was because they were making it MORE robust. It's because they don't think those things in the definition amount to anti-semitism and the implication is that you should be allowed to make those claims and not be criticised or disciplined for them. The main defence on here appears to be pointing at supposed islamophobia in the Tory party as if that has any kind of relevance to any of this at all. It doesn't

To be honest I'd rather some of our rubbish players from last season were poor in pre season as I have no faith that they will suddenly be any better. Much better that Hughes sees how poor they are in pre season as he isn't likely to pick them so in that respect romeu, Davis, bednarek etc can be as poor as they like. Good though to see some our new players doing pretty well. I feel confident we have improved from last season even if it's only a little bit.

What middle class students and hippies? I don't think they'll be feeling much pain.

Didn't your missus used to post on here?

Thanks for the update cabbage. Real itks like you are the lifeblood of this forum unlike scam artists like Jack schitt. Love and light.

It popped up as breaking news as I was reading the BBC. I find court proceedings interesting in general- just finished reading the secret barrister and particularly this case as it's polarised a lot of people.

We should have absolutely listened and believed our Kenyan friend. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? As you say a massive loss. Love and light.

I'm not sure if he can now plead not guilty at the next one. The argument was that it was all rushed through with no opportunity for the defence to discuss mitigating factors. Would be interesting to know actually. It seems he pleaded guilty but it wasn't actually spelled out what parts of the video amounted to contempt and therefore what he was pleading guilty to. I expect if he subsequently pleads not guilty that his lawyers could argue that. "There was no clarity about what the appellant was admitting or on what basis he was being sentenced." Pretty shocking stuff!

Quite possibly. Hopefully it should act as a deterrent to people who could potentially put court cases at risk even if that wasn't their intention. I'm sure many people didn't even realise that filming in that manner could result in contempt of court. I am glad that it appears they are going to do the whole court case properly now but I am concerned that they rushed through the conviction in the first place when as the judgement says there was no need to after the video was taken down. I hope the original judge considers matters like this and makes the correct judgements if he ever has to try similar cases in the future- I saw he was in the window watching Tommy outside before he was arrested which seems pretty dodgy on its own.

So then Tommy Robinson has won his appeal after the judge accepted that the process for convicting him was fundamentally flawed. He's still guilty of contempt of court in my opinion and should be sentenced for that but this judgement does give some credence to those saying he was treated differently by the system because of who he is. I want to see all individuals treated equally before the law.

Rachid Ghezzal?

Jack schitt was quite obviously a troll. Anyone with even the slightest amount of common sense was fully aware of that at the time and he quite rightfully received ridicule and abuse for his attention seeking nonsense.

Stop being such a hypercrite.