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We have lost some cracking players and that disappoints me. However we move on. My view is that once the pre world cup Liv/MU/Ars/TH attention started and the players had been tapped we had passed the point of no return. If MS and JR sort themselves out then fine, but if not, we should take the money as their playing value just won't be there without their commitment and in that case the team would be better without them. We have lost five, one that was a back up. Three of those have been replaced. How well, only time will tell. Tadic looks a cracking player, Bertrand a decent player, Pelle settling in but looks more of a presence in the box than Lambert who often dropped off. I think they will do well. The next priority replace Lovren, ideally 2 CBs, then if the two come in from Inter and we bring in another GK and a goal scorer I think we will be in good shape. I also think we may well see the best of Ramirez now Lallana has gone. Cover for Clyne would be the final piece in the jigsaw for me. If MS and JR go then we would really need to replace with top class and use their fees to do that. It would surprise me if they go, as £27m is I suspect too much for Spurs and goal scoring JR won't be any cheaper. I can see new improved contracts a la Suarez offered. I'm pretty sure that the above is the sort of reconstruction that Koeman is involved in. I'm looking forward to the final squad make up. I still think with the right blend brought in we will do alright.
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Far too sensible. You are obviously on the wrong site asking that question. Surely you can't resist joining the 24/7 feeding frenzy.
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Sombrero I believe for Mexico.
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I don't think they are irreplaceable. A decent centre back and overall we aren't much different. All a matter of opinion. The injured Rodriguez is a bigger loss than the others. I still think we will get over fifty points this season. Bring in five more including another good keeper and we will be in good shape as a squad.
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So we've lost four regulars and a reserve which means four changes to the team. Unsustainable say everybody. So what happens to Liverpool? looks like eight brought in, so it's alright it works for them. Arsenal four, god knows how many at Utd, WHU, Crystal Palace, Hull, Burnley, etc etc. What a load of hypocrites in the media. We've replaced three so far, of course the jury is still out but I bet we will be a lot stronger overall this season than last.
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Contracts and Football - How could the game change?
derry replied to Torrent Of Abuse's topic in The Saints
Make all transfer fees payable up front. That would bring them down. -
BBC Article - The inside story of the great Southampton sell-off
derry replied to Donatello's topic in The Saints
Basis of factual events but put together total bull****. Adam Lallana went from very happy at the Everton game to ' doubling his money' at the MU game. Not from Ben Smith, from his father first hand. -
Thanks ssn app reporting on the game last night said it was Van Dijk. Now says Ambrose.
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We'll soon know if it's Van Dyk as he's now suspended from the next two ECL games. Sent off v Legia.
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What's wrong with people. The lad is obviously a decent player not Shaw but he can play and was available and wanted to play. We get to try him out for the season rather than paying another £10m out. At the moment only a centre back to put us back where we were numbers wise if not yet quality wise yet. However with more signings I can see a big increase in the overall quality of the squad which we didn't have last year.
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Everton had about 3/4 last year. Barry, Lukaku, lad from Barcelona.
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Personally I think we should unload them both for top dollar, they will never be as good for us again. Live with that and move on unless they commit. It will also flush out if the offers are too low and unacceptable to us anyway.
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Presumably because he was working.
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Because they wouldn't stay not because we wanted to sell them. Adam threw his toys out of the pram when he thought we were holding it up. Shaw and Lambert for different reasons. Either way all except Lambert went for the money and I bet he did alright too.
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I can see in that set up with that hypothetical squad, Van Dyk with Vlaar, Ings in a Rodriguez wide role and Ramirez behind Pelle.
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I read into that, his agent had been tapped, however in retrospect unless it was the Gerrard/Lambert connection. No it seemed that had changed, trumped by the money. In the end the manager went anyway but then Koeman wasn't even given a chance by the players, who didn't follow Pochettino, but went for the money and status without the guarantee of being sure of playing. I wouldn't mind betting by November most of them won't even be starting.
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It is all about money. Adam's father at MU game asked Weston 'if you were a young lad offered double the money what would you do?' nicely setting the scene. It had previously been said by him to me at the Everton game, Adam and the players were happy, that it was all about the manager staying, needed at least 3 new players, giving the manager the money to do that. Very critical of Reed. Two weeks later it was the money.
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Look how that worked out, he really was the first to kick off about going.
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I don't know why people think the players thought too hard about these moves. Their agents were tapped, the ridiculous money was put forward, the players grabbed at it with both hands. Schneiderlin and Rodriguez know what's on offer and they want their lottery win too. We should play the same game, up front no deal, name a ridiculous fee for both or nothing doing and unload them.
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Just a little perspective, where exactly are we compared with the team that finished last season, Who have we lost. Lambert replaced by Pelle, Lallana replaced by Tadic, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers. Chambers was close to Clyne but a backup nonetheless. So we have left back and centre back still to be replaced hardly a meltdown. If we bring in 5/6 good players including a top class goalkeeper we will have a better squad than last year That doesn't look impossible to do especially if we bring in good footballers who know the game.
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I presume his agent is more ****ed off as his lottery win postponed.
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Of course this may be resolved by an offer we can't refuse.
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He now knows the board's position.
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I had actually accepted that he was going. I feel that we should sell Rodriguez as he isn't renewing with less than 2 years on his contract. I don't think we should back down but I do think we should replace them and just before Sept just let them go for £50m.
