Jimmy_D

Wouldn't put it past the media team to have been trolling the fans, ours AND Liverpool's, with that first video that didn't have him in.

*should have

Also it's an article from the Mirror with no quotes No one joins Liverpool with an expectation of regular Champions League football these days.

Yeah he did about three hours ago...

'Rich' is a relative term in football these days. As I've said before, even the top end £70M probably wouldn't leave us with one of the world's top CBs on a five year contract, even if we were prepared to spend the whole lot to try and do that. It's a different situation to most of the other times when we've already had replacements lined up with at least the potential to be as good or better than what we're letting go.

'Rich' is a relative term in football these days. As I've said before, even the top end £70M probably wouldn't leave us with one of the world's top CBs on a five year contract, even if we were prepared to spend the whole lot to try and do that. It's a different situation to most of the other times when we've already had replacements lined up with at least the potential to be as good or better than what we're letting go.

He's earned that with his form on loan. Be interesting to see if he can carry that through into form for us now.

Great news! Last season was awesome for him, and his breakthrough was one of the real highlights. We might have a real gem of a player here.

Obviously a done deal.

Nah, most of their ****wit fans seem to think 'not enough evidence to charge them with tapping up' means 'had permission to talk to VvD' so they'll be buying him for about £50M now because we won't want a player that's unsettled.

Considering the source, I very very highly doubt it was either written by, or aimed at, Liverpool fans. In any case, very good news that he's on a five year deal now. Can only see him getting better and better.

Another benefit of holding off on selling VvD to Liverpool is that they really really need him. I'm struggling to think of a single alternative they could go for. There's every chance that without him, they won't have Champion's League football to offer after next season and they'll find it even more difficult to get him.

I don't know off hand what Kreuger said, but my words have been the same for a while... https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50943-Lovren-joins-Liverpool-Official&p=1992546#post1992546 https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57504-Virgil-Transfer-Rumours-Summer-17&p=2424095#post2424095

I can actually see players being reluctant to move to Spain, at least for a while, until the tax situation there settles down.

All the way along since Liebherr took over, despite having the appearance of a selling club, when we've sold, it's been because we thought we could do better with the money rather than keeping the player to make us better on the pitch. There's been a few reasons that have weighed it in favour of selling more often than not, usually down to not having long left on a contract or the player kicking up one heck of a stink, along with a decent amount of money being offered. There have been a few times when keeping the player made sense for us. Wanyama and Schneiderlin being the obvious examples. More often than not we've been right, our squad has been steadily getting stronger. Looks like we're finally seeing a summer where it makes more sense to keep all of our best players than sell.

Aye, I'm not going to criticise someone that puts their hand up and is willing to face that.

Thought Pickford was unlucky in that shootout, was going the right way for almost all of them.

Oh no... That's his very last action for England U21s as well...

Sort of feels like it might be our day after the chances Germany missed.

I'd guess we want Liverpool to **** off this summer regarding VvD, but we don't want to completely poison the relationship between the clubs (and possibly other clubs too).

If I was betting on it, I'd guess a combination of b and d, the Premier League stand to benefit if their team isn't hamstrung in the Champions League. I also reckon that there's an understanding that Liverpool actually back off and don't pursue VvD though.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2717975-inside-the-southampton-black-box-informing-their-manager-carousel Nothing much new there, but there's a bit more about the black box and the philosophy in place around it than I'd heard before.

No guarantees it'll end up working of course, there never are, but I can certainly see why the club went for him. This could be a really good fit for the club, and I'm looking forward to seeing just what he can out of us.

https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?58468-Mauricio-Pellegrino-signs-as-First-Team-Manager-on-a-Three-Year-deal-OFFICIAL#.WU05-1MrKMJ