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All if and buts. Fact is 1 win in 12 and 3 in 20......never going to be good enough. Even if we won Saturday does it change anything. Does Hughes suddenly become a good manager, no not at all. We are not fit enough hence we concede so many late goals and are always on the back foot. At Stoke they said training wasn’t intense and isn’t that the rumours here. We can’t hold onto a lead, we don’t score goals and he doesn’t know his best team or tactics. There are very few positives to take.

Very true, but surely he got the wins against the teams we would have expected to beat. His results were nothing special nor were they terrible. He sets his teams not to get beat against the bigger teams and they get stuffed. It’s never his fault, Saturday is a key example if the referee gets the decisions correct we are down to 10 men facing a penalty at 1-0 and let’s face it we struggled to hold on with 11 men. The squad doesn’t look fit enough and although not the best squad, it is surely better than 1 win in 12. I don’t see it improving just getting worse.

Absolute madness to stick with him. If he stays in charge all season we are dead certs to go down. Should never have been appointed in the summer 2 wins from the run of games we had towards the end of the season was a poor return. Luckily for us Swansea were so poor. Giving him more time just means we loose more ground on everyone else. The only saving grace is there are 5 or 6 very poor teams. We have become very dull to watch and we are becoming a Villa / Sunderland where everyone wants us to go down. Now is the perfect time for him to go with 2 weeks before a big big game. We are going to get halfway though the season with less than 20 points.

Not good enough for Premier League, another poor player we signed. How we haven’t overhauled our recruitment team I don’t know. Ever since Mitchell left the recruitment has been awful both for players and managers. Squad needs a massive overhaul, unbalanced in midfield, strikers who lack quality (apart from Gabbiadini and Ings but Gabbi hasn’t been given a run of games) and defenders who haven’t improved us. We lack any sort of pace and I think it all means we are in for a long season of struggling against relegation.

It’s a bit sad when a point away to Bournemouth is considered a good result. I’m not saying it isn’t by the way. Just shows how far we have fallen. Hughes seems to set his teams up to stop others playing and not set teams up to win games.

Modern football is like it always has been. If you have crap recruitment, manager and players and poor tactics it’s craps however if you recruit well play exciting football it’s awesome. Unfortunately since Koeman left we are the first one before that we were the second because we have replaced badly.

Fair post. This is the poorest situation post Liebherr. Which is easy to say because we’ve always been on an upward curve. However since Koeman left we have gone on a downward spiral. Signings poor, poor choice of managers and awful football. I think we need changes from top to bottom. Fresh direction and better recruitment. We are in danger if we do nothing of going down but everyone can see that. We are potentially the next Sunderland.

Difference is Williams is seeing the most successful period in Bournemouth’s history and are well punching above their weight and playing an attractive football. We on the other hand haven’t played good football since Koeman left. How many of our games have been exciting? How many times do we score 2+ goals or even 1 and keep going for more?

Dean Smith for me. Always plays good football with unfancied clubs like Brentford and Walsall and has them punching above their weight. The problem is he is not a name people recongise.

Totally agree.

Right read the first paragraph and if I’m to be a critic it seems a bit Puel loving, my opinion is he should never been appointed and he should have been sacked however Pellegrino is definitely as bad a replacement we could have asked for. From the off we needed a positive attacking manager. Hughes is not it either. Get Adkins back

As much as we are down, is there any need for this thread? Actually why am I commenting? Wolves away is what I’m looking forward too

Poor atmosphere but poor negative play from the start. What is wrong with attacking teams? Since Koeman has left when have we attcked a team? Another shocking performance and an absolute waste of money.

Very true who we recruit in the key area such as Chairman, Director of Football and Cheif Scout is key. Since Ronald left the recruiting has been awful hence we are in a mess with a poor squad of players. No doubt Les Reed is to blame his decisions the last 2 years has been poor along with Ralph’s. Ralphs interview which was truely shocking and we have been sleep walking into relegation with everybody realising it apart from the people who make key decisions. Let’s hope Goa can find the right people to improve the club going forward but it looks like it is all far too late for our premiership status.

I don’t think Hughes is the right man to take us forward. Given us more of a chance of staying up than Pellegrino however we are doomed. The club need a major clear out from Reed, Kruger, Wilson etc but I doubt it will happen.

Hasn’t offered anything to make me think he can score goals or is worth £15m. Looks a poor expensive signing and hasn’t looked liked scoring in any game so far. No pace and hasn’t won much in the air. Don’t know what he offers the team.

Agree with all this apart from personality transplant (however I'm not saying he's not dull to listen to) which is harsh. Can't believe some people still back him. Sign defenders and problems are sorted. No it will be the same crap negative football. We have not scored many goals because we don't attack teams. This is not a knee jerk reaction he has had 35 ish games and has changed an entertaining high pressing side into a negative defensive side. He's got his ideas across and it has led to a season where the style of football is boring and predictable. Yes he has reached the league cup final but Europe was poor, FA Cup embarrassing and the fact he said he'll do it again. That has destroyed confidence and the league form is woeful. With the exception of the League Cup there is no achievements.

Spot on.

Yep sounds like Koeman. Puel is stuck in his ways, rumours of player discontent, rotation policy which has only worked in the league cup and poor boring negative football.

Let's hope he doesn't get too long. The football has been negative and yes although he has got us to a cup final the Europa League Campaign was poor, the FA Cup was poor and has seemed to have shattered confidence with his constant rotation especially the Arsenal game. I bet he has no idea what our best 11 is and we are 35 games + into the season. Long scores and is rotated and so is Rodriguez. The midfield is constantly changing and you need to form combinations. One thing making an appointment that is a mistake and the quickest way to recover is to rectify it.

Totally agree. The football has been ****e and he has to go now as results have gone down hill too.

Totally agree about not having a right to finish above West Brom or Stoke but I was trying to show how far we have dropped the last 9 months.

Fair point. I just don't find the style of play attractive to watch. Do you think West Brom, Burnley and Stoke should finish above us. Of course I don't expect to finish top 6 but top 10 is realistic. To get through the Europa league group is realistic and not be stuffed 5-0 in the FA Cup. Yes he has done well against Arsenal and Liverpool in the league cup. We have gone backwards of due to the players we lost and manager.

Spot on the rotation paid off against Swansea didn't it. Puel has really messed up generally, we are dropping down the league, out of Europe at the first hurdle and out of the FA Cup embarrassingly. He's only preformed in the league cup on the latter rounds against Arsenal and Liverpool because our new be hard to break down and get a goal to win 1-0 is suited against these. Puel has to go. We are going backwards although as mentioned elsewhere the recruitment hasn't helped but we are still under achieving in every area apart from the league cup.

Spot on. Reed has done a decent job until now. How could he keep Mane, Big Vic, Lallana, Morgan, Clyne, Chambers, Shaw, Lambert, Lovern, Toby, Koeman and Poch (I've probably missed some!). These people are not fans of the club and jump for bigger wages or because clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are more likely to be challenging on a consistent basis for honours. Which one of these players or managers wanted to stay? People need to be realistic. We have replacement each one very well until the summer. Puel is the wrong choice. He only ticks the box on youth development. The football is ****e, we will drop down the league but won't go down. The club needs to take a long hard look at the recruitment the past year and realise it hasn't been good enough. We are being overtaken by the West Brom's etc. Reed needs to put the manager right asap and this summer is massive for him. He needs to stop talking publicly about ambition and statements which he can't keep to. For example not selling Fonte till we find a replacement. Also we need to stop relying on young players to come through who ain't good enough. Reed, Stephens etc need to be out on loan playing games. Look at Lallana, Lambert, Fonte, Morgan etc they have all played 100+ league games before making an impact in the premiership. I am worried for the future. The league cup will mask everyone's view of the manager.