Greenridge

There seems to be zero dispute that, according to sources close to both Arsenal and Southampton, that the £5M number includes wages, agents fees and bonuses. It is not the loan fee being paid to SFC by Arsenal. You don’t have to accept that of course. That is your prerogative.

You won't be surprised to hear that MLG already pointed out the error in the Transfermarkt's contract duration data! Mind you, £20K pw? I didn't think any Prem 1st team players were on such 'paltry' money.

+ KWP - ‘too early’ ref Ralph / Blackmore

I think it’s likely he’ll be on more than £50k pw but even so, as you suggest, it doesn’t quite add up. What is for sure is we are not ‘getting’ £5m from Arsenal for him. And we have the net impact of fees and wages for KWP. All-in-all it’s neither here nor there in financial terms in the grand scheme of things. It’s also a player-for-player so no squad strengthening either.

Calm down and read the reply properly. No one is saying he won’t improve but he’s unlikely to have improved in the time he has been out of the team with a virus, not playing or even training which is what you suggested.

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It’s been widely published from media outlets close to SFC. Unlike some I don’t make things up and certainly don’t claim to be ITK.

We aren’t getting £5m for Cedric. There’s a loan fee of

See if Valery has improved while being out with a 'virus' and not been playing? I'll give you one thing, you are definitely a glass half-full man!

I think he meant Shane Long.

According to Transfermarkt it expires 30.06.2020

You don't think we are paying a loan fee for KWP and his wages?

He's due back on 15/02 which pretty much coincides with the winter break.

He’s obviously pulled the wool over a hell of a lot of managers and influential football people to get where he has today. He’s lucky he didn’t come across you to block his career path. He’s got to be thankful that this Arteta fella doesn’t know squat about football too.

Quite amazing then that he’s played more than two hundred games across the top leagues of Portugal, England and Italy. Has represented Portugal at every age group and won the European Championship with them. Who’d have thought.

No it’s not. The ‘£5m’ includes the net offset of us not paying his salary for the rest of his contract. The Telegraph (the clubs mouthpiece) are reporting the actual loan fee element as being less than £1M.

The frustration, as a fan, is yet again the Club thinking we are all stupid and will fall for their ‘we got £5m for an out-of-contract’ player waffle.

Err, no. We will be paying the new RB’s wages and knowing Levy’s reputation probably 100%. We might / probably are paying a loan fee to Spurs too. Edit: The Telegraph are reporting the loan fee from Arsenal is.........

It’s not £5m though. That figure includes the net reduction of his wages off our books between now and the end of his contract

We’ve also benefited from what is probably an all-time record low of injuries.

Possibly, we don’t know those details but this being the notoriously tough Levy we are talking about I wouldn’t rule out us picking up his full wages. They could easily be near Cedric’s level. It seems the Club are trying to dress this up as ‘we’ve just got £5M’ for a player shortly out of contract when, in reality, that’s not actually the case.

The £5M ‘fee’ includes us losing his wages from now till the end of the season. It isn’t a £5M loan fee Arsenal are paying.

Sounds like it’s pretty much a formality according to Blackmore.

It’s the Gao Way.