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I can't be arsed to respond point by point. I'm sure I've dealt with your points but if I haven't please clarify but do remember the issue is simply whether we need to expand our stadium, nothing else.

Mate that is a ridiculous response. Not one point deals with the issues. If you want/need the last word then please be my guest. If you have a fragment of logic or evidence to support what you say please post it.

FFs joe, common sense has no place on this site!

Investment. Let's assume your correct that the 33m is that. That's not the issue. The topic is stadium expansion. Crowds. Stupid question. The point is whether there is evidence that we will attract bigger crowds consistently. There is none. Catchment. Look at a map. We can draw from 3 sides only. Folks won't come from pompey.

We've done this on other threads. This is not dragons den. It's the real world. The geography has been done to the death. We have a much lesser catchment area than most other clubs. The return is simple arithmetic based on realistic ( not your pie in the sky 44k every game ) crowd numbers throughout the season in relation to development costs. If it were likely we would sell 44k every week then great, but it won't happen. 44k against Wigan, Bolton,Blackburn, Swansea, Norwich etc ain't gonna happen. Man U and Man C would only come to town once a season and you do not expand for raritys. Loans. We lost 33m last year. Yes it was converted to shares but we still lost it. That loss was incurred to get us up and looks like a risk that was worth taking and will give a massive return on promotion. Expansion won't give a return. Figures please. Staplewood. I never mentioned it! Money well spent though. We have always developed players whether for us or profit. That facility, our existing stadium, track record and ambition will help attract great kids to justify (if needed) the cost.

Jesus MLG, why must you drag this up every now and again? It's been done to death. Your best point ( and it's a bad one) is to point to what reading and wolves have done. We are not them so the reference is meaningless. It's also been made clear that the return on the cost of expansion just isn't there. Our club nearly died as a result of expenditure above income, primarily on the back of a stadium. We have been rescued by prudent business people who will not risk our future on a costly expansion that we do not need, and more importantly is not commercially viable.

And being found not guilty is not necessarily an indication of innocence (eg OJ Simpson). I'm not saying the Barney decision was wrong ( the unanimous verdict in less than an hour suggests it was probably correct) but Barney has not been found innocent as many think. As to the stats, when I had a criminal defence practice it's fair to say that the vast majority of my clients who were acquitted were probably guilty as hell. They got off as a result of decent defence lawyers and/or crap prosecutors.

Was right behind it in row d. Realised he'd messed up and hit the deck. Lucky to escape a yellow

This has happened to me, was the bearings iirc.

Why not get it remapped, will add 40bhp and loads more torque. Angel tuning are brilliant. Alternatively stick a crd tuning box on it for similar results, loads on ebay for not much money. Fuel economy won't suffer, in fact should improve. Sent from my Liquid MT using Tapatalk

A balanced opinion. We own a mini Cooper and an Alfa 156 diesel. The Alfa destroys the mini in terms of performance, economy and believe it or not build. The internal materials on the Alfa blow the mini away. The 147 is largely the same car. For me, the 147. 60k BTW is nothing for that engine.

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No idea tbh, will check. The games can go separately.

The kids are getting rid of these as they aren't getting used. One in yellow and in perfect condition. The other is Brown and pretty sure it's perfect but will check when my daughter can be bothered to find it. £60 each. We have a few games kicking about as well. Will look them out and confirm details.

I have an Orange San Francisco (Zte Blade) unlocked, rooted and running a custom rom if you fancy it.

38, live in Rownhams but ex of Lordshill. I can't remember my first game but I was quite a late starter. I remember shaking Shilton's hand after the game and getting some autographs. First away game was on the old Foley coach to Anfield in the late 80's. Colin Clarke scored a diving header in a 1-1 draw. Excellent thread by the way.

Simon Callaway from Hedge End is excellent. One man band but great value and service.

Dickson went off early for orient yesterday, presumably injured.

I would like to see Stephens get a start ahead of Butterfield. This could our best chance to blood him this season. I would also hope that one of Ward-Prowse or Reeves starts in the middle - not fussed which. I think it will be a close game but 2-1 to us.

I have one too. They are superb value. Lots of pre installed bloatware though but easily rooted so you can delete all the rubbish. The camera is ok but the software doesn't do it justice. Get the LG camera from the market and use that, makes a real difference.

He was a proper box to box playr and was one that got away. I think we released him, madness.

They are full backs. I think the op meant proper defenders, ie centre backs and also ball winning midfielders.

Matt Mills looked ok on Monday. We bettered Williamson. Cranie is competent. You're right tho, the academy has always produced far more attack minded players than defensive.

I agree, and I can't see it personally. Great player but we neede someone with his career ahead of him.