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Agreed, but that isn't the rule. We'll be disciplined on the actual rule, not commonsense.

I think TestValley is more TeesValley.

We could and will complain of there's expulsion as that's disproportionate. However, you highlight the relevant point that's being overlooked, namely intent. It doesn't matter that we didn't benefit from whatever happened, but we plainly intended to in what was a massive game. That'll be the focus of the tribunal.

That's understandable given the EFL press release mentioned possible appeal (either side can appeal, ie the EFL if we receive an outcome they think too generous) and postponement. The EFL could have simply said that "there is an imminent disciplinary tribunal and we will release the outcome in early course. Pending any decision to the contrary, it's business as usual". They didn't do that and instead put the prospect of a draconian verdict, and challenge, into the public arena.

If you substitute repugnant with wrong, nobody could reasonably disagree with Blackmore. That other clubs allegedly do it in league games isn't great mitigation in itself, and misses the point that this wasn't a league game but a high stakes play off semi. However you cut it, we were seeking an advantage that we were not entitled to seek, and the punishment will focus on that in the context of the stakes in that particular game.

The regulations are here: https://images.gc.eflservices.co.uk/526ac020-67b3-11f0-9ba4-015464ec39cd.pdf Section 8, regulations 84, 85 and 90 - 93 (page 129, 130 and 133 onwards.

He either has relevant evidence or he doesn't.

He may have, but if he has compelling evidence, I'm not sure if the relevance of any grudge against us.

🤣 I'm convinced you're on a wind up now.

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The penalties...I've highlighted the only one that matters, which is basically they have discretion to do whatever. 93.2.1 order a party to do or refrain from doing anything; 93.2.2 order a specific performance; 93.2.3 make a declaration on any matter to be determined; 93.2.4 issue a reprimand or warning as to the future conduct of a party 93.2.5 order the payment of compensation to The League, any Club, any other club, Player or other person 93.2.6 order a suspension of membership of The League 93.2.7 order a deduction of points; 93.2.8 impose a financial penalty payable to The League; 93.2.9 recommend expulsion from membership of The League; 93.2.10 order a withdrawal or loss of benefit otherwise available to members of The League e.g. basic award or ladder payment; 93.2.11 impose an embargo on registration of Players; 93.2.12 order any other sanction as the Disciplinary Commission may think fit; .

In the context of this charge, too much is being put on the rights or wrongs of the evidence gathering imo. The tribunal, I would imagine, will be more focused in facts, not how they came to light.

Yep. I reckon Hellberg called him a cheat and Tonda gave him a twin barrelled denial.

Apologies, I meant next weekend, final day. I'm talking about an appeal against that decision by either us or the EFL. That isn't getting dealt with by Tuesday, or the final.

I've just checked the EFL regulations. Either us or the EFL (assuming we're the only 2 parties to the case) can appeal a verdict or penalty within 14 days, although the chair can reduce that period. That appeal then needs to be held. Assuming we go down in flames on Tuesday, there's no realistic way of having an appeal fairly determined by the weekend. I'm as confident as I can be that, assuming this was an isolated incident, that we ain't getting kicked out.

What's that got to do with charge that relates to Middlesbrough? You're flapping and over thinking.

Any of them been up to Middlesbrough and willing to take one for the team? Asking for a friend.

That fringe is distinctive. Surprised it didn't flop into his coffee tbh.

No. It's not their case. The EFL could though, as could we.

Indeed, and Burnham has thrown his hat in the ring.

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Re points deduction. Can a punishment for an offence in the EFL be transferred to the PL?

If he's done this, and it's off his own back, we'll have to hang him out to dry.

You're not getting this are you.

I heard he's going to be in the next series of Slow Horses.