S-Clarke

Feel for Cardiff, in that they'd resolved their striker position by splashing £15m on one. But no one would have imagined how that would turn out. So they're a bit stuck now. Really weird situation.

To be fair he's another lad we should just let go, he needs to forge his career elsewhere. It won't be here.

I just don't think we performed well enough over the 90, but obviously I'll take the point as a positive! Palace will feel hard done by in my opinion, they could have won that.

It really was a poor show, we looked lethargic and half asleep for the majority of that game. Very penetration in attack going on, Redmond very quiet and ineffective and Ings just moping around not doing a great deal. Midfield got over run, Hoj had a poor game I felt. Valery was OK, but still got beaten a couple of times. Vesterguard looks great in some moments but then scares the life out of me in others, he had a mixed game. Best player - again - was Jan. Beast of a defender, body on the line, blocking everything. Basically, we didn't deserve to get anything from that game but somehow, we snuck an equaliser. Good finish from JWP I thought, who didn't have the best of games generally. Draws in games like this is a step forward I feel. We'd have lost this previously, but there's just a little bit more grit running through this side now. Given the performance it's a very positive point.

He really is dreadful. Not holding out much hope for a change as he doesn't have any real attributes.

You really do come across as a child.

ITK?

You've just been wummed....

He's just earning too much money. I can't see any club wanting to pay 60k+ in wages for someone who hasn't set foot on a football field in 18 months or so? Plus he had a year out prior to that with a very bad injury. We've pushed ourselves into a corner with the huge salary we gave him and anyone in their right mind isn't going to say ''Don't worry, let me play for free'' when he still has 3/4 years remaining. So, well done Les. His career at the top level is probably over and we're out of pocket for millions.

Pretty weird situation to be honest, you hope that the passengers are found safe and well (think there were only 2 or 3 on there?) but let's be honest the chances of that are pretty slim now.

The fact he thinks he did well here says it all, too high an opinion of himself and a complete berk. He played 50 games in a row, maybe, but we lost most of them. No surprise we're better now he's out of the team. Good riddence to bad rubbish. The most uncomfortable looking defender i've ever had to watch.

He's just a mentalist.

He's a ******** on the line kind of defender, just throws himself in front of anything and everything. I thought he did a good job at the back end of last year, so I had no idea why he was excluded at the start of this season. I mean Hoedt, over him? Come on. Probably our best Centre Back to be honest - although Vesterguard is improving and looking more comfortable as we go.....still think we could do with some genuine pace and power in the back line though.

No one is putting the blame on him for last night. Have a read.

He was shown up once he lost people like Fonte and VVD along side him. They covered for a lot of his averageness during the Koeman years. He got beaten too much down his side, it was always a critisim. Now he's surrounded by lesser quality he hasn't stepped up, he's been shown up. Plus his attitude stinks. Ryan hasn't been as good, but hasn't been shown up as much as Cedric has.

Oh you don't have to justify any of that to me! Never really rated him, bog average really. But now even worse as his attitude stinks and he can't give a ****. He screams bad egg to me and he's not good enough to warrant sticking with.

He is ****e to be fair, I'm with you on that.

The good sign is that Ralph is casting his net far and wide, obviously really looking into detail at what he has to select at all levels. Which is refreshing. Previous managers were just too keen to stick with tried and tested over rated rubbish. About time we had someone in charge who is keen to give everything a bit of tlc.

I reckon we could get about £15m for him, which would be daylight robbery if we're honest. Let's take it, get Joakim who is cheaper I think. He looks more suited on the videos, but you can't read much into them. Either way, I'd just be glad to be shot of Cedric. I'm not sure if I've said it before, but I don't like him.

To me he looked a little bit out of his depth if I'm honest. Looks like there may be something to work with, but not yet.

I mean who else is there? We're lacking any real options in attack. He's there because we have no one else. To be fair Ralph is giving him a chance, but I think he's probably seen enough now.

Hopefully he is.

Still massive fragility in this side. Lots of work to be done. Not a fan of Johnson or Ramsay, they look a bit short for this level. Moi just doesn't look like a footballer, it's bizzare. Overall it was just a cup game at the end of the day, and the obvious issues in this squad still persist but I'm confident the coaching staff know and are trying to do something about it.

His decision making is and will always be his weak point which is why we're about his level, but he's quick and has been more direct this season which has helped us open games up.

He is so painful to watch, I'll give you that.