S-Clarke

Always the same with England. Beat San Marino and we have a chance of winning the Euro's, but this game is a bit of a back down to earth with regards to how tactically dated we are. Good players, but managed in a horrifically **** way.

Well, that was depressing.

But we're not talking about 1 season, or 1 position. We're talking about the histories and statures of the clubs in the commercial and fan sense. We aren't close.

The night David Prutton somehow contrived to miss an open goal.

One from Shelvey and Barkley, exactly the sort we could do with in CM.

He's not getting much love in the comments!

Amazing result for N.Ireland, can they really do it??? Shane Long also got one for the ROI tonight.

Awful news, he was such a top talent. Looking at the article it says he's done is ACL and medial. That's just horrific. Long road back from that.

The likes of JWP, Reed, Hesketh, Targett etc will be in the U21 list.

Rudi Skacel surely has to win that one.

MERSE SAYS: I'm not sure about Virgil van Dijk at all because he's been playing for Celtic and hasn't had to head a ball. I'm very interested to see what happens with him, but they have kept Sadio Mane and Victor Wanyama which is good news. Their start to the season has been a bit disappointing but they've had injuries so I'll give them a B-. He gets paid to type that. quite incredible really.

You've let us all down this year, we were relying on you to save us.

He can sod off, he spat his dummy out to get a move and took the **** out of this club, so he can drown his sorrows up in Stoke or WBA with Rickie.

9.9/10

Yeah, what is with that? They've spent about £20m in the window. £10m on two today, Ince was signed for around £6-7m, and they've added a few other's I can't remember right now. Quite ambitious, especially with the new manager they have who is also apparently on a decent wedge. This is obviously the gamble of all gambles. Also, the Bradley Johnson move is odd. Norwich's player of the season last year, 16 goals from midfield, vice captain, loved by Norwich fans. They've bemused that they've let him go and not replaced him. Money talks there I guess, £7m!

Joe Hart was a bit older, 19, going by this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/5006544.stm I think his first taste of first team football came at Birmingham 2 seasons later, he had a storming season there too.

To be fair, I think we've been quite gracious in the Morgan deal. We knew he'd go, we accepted what he'd done for us and knew he could do better. Similar to what the Celtic guys are feeling I assume. Luckily for Celtic, their players haven't kicked up a fuss demanding moves.

Good to read all the Celtic views, when the clubs fans come out with such glowing terms about a player, you know you have a good one (similar was said of Clasie). Was Victor at Celtic with Virgil, or did Virgil come in after we'd got Victor? Forster, Virgil and Wanyama down the spine is pretty tasty.

To be fair, I was trying to say that it was refreshing how they didn't get the players.

Will be interesting to see how we use him from here on in. He'll clearly be here until January at the very least, can't imagine we'll be paying him to sit about if he's fit.

I'm going to enjoy his attempts at this one - [h=1]Papy Djilobodji[/h]

I smell a slight porky, as I'm sure Toby was on their list to tick off.

Refreshing in the sense that they don't get their way. So often players are seen as the ones who hold all the cards and they can bully their clubs to get their way.

In a way, it's quite a refreshing window. Everton, ourselves and West Brom holding their own and calling the shots. Should happen more often.

They deserve it, after the way their club has acted. They look weak as hell in CM though, they shifted out 3 and didn't bring in any (and they clearly wanted one). They are certainly deflated.