Lord Duckhunter

Perhaps he shouldn’t have paid a deposit then.

He’ll be blamed for not picking JWP.

Like FPTP then.

You don’t have to tell me, it’s your mate soggy who seems to be struggling with it. Perhaps you could tell him that under both systems there will be votes that don’t result in representation . There will be a lot less under PR, but there will be some. You can’t say that under FPTP there will be “meaningless” votes, whereas under PR there won’t. Anyeay I’m off canvassing for my new party.

Why can’t the party of their choice follow the example of the LDXAP and give up or change their policies. If my one supporter decides I can’t win a seat, so votes for somebody else, is that not tactical voting? You seem to think that someone voting for a party that doesn’t get enough support under FPTP doesn’t mean anything, whereas under PR it does. This is clearly nonsense. The principle of what a “losing” vote becomes is exactly the same, the only thing that changes is the threshold at which a vote becomes a losing one. Under FPFT it’s not coming first in a constituency, under PR it’s not achieving the required level. There are votes that (in your words) don’t mean anything,in both systems. Thus proving your original point, was indeed pony.

So the same as FPTP then.

I didn’t say anything about premier league experience. All the players you’ve listed were hardened pros, leaders. That’s exactly what we need now.

We need a leader and some experience at the back. We’ve enough youngsters as it is.

Let’s hope the Danes employ the Ralph “let’s play high up the pitch with a slow centre half pairing” tactics which led to the Spurs debacle earlier in the season. The most inept display of managerial fuckwittery witnessed in years.

Soggy, If the Monster raving loon party stand candidates in every seat and gain 702 votes across the country, under PR how many seats will they gain? I presume it will be 0. Therefore, those 702 votes don’t mean anything (under your definition). I’m puzzled as to how you’re still arguing against the statement that PR doesn’t mean every vote counts, but more votes count. This is now the third time you’ve claimed that “every” vote means something, despite other supporters of PR clearly understanding that it’s not the case. I’ve accepted that more votes count under PR than FPTP, but you’re still arguing against that. Stating “of course” they all count. Have you found a new PR system, please clarify?

He’s too soft.

Do you think he’ll ever win player of the season like Redmond did?

What party allegiance is that then? The past 20 years I’ve voted for UKIP more than any other party. You know them, the party that probably suffered from FPTP more than any other in that time period. Thus proving your point is complete and utter pony. I support FPTP despite it costing seats to the party I’ve given my support to. Clearly, the complete opposite of what you claimed. Other than that, great point well made 😂😂

I wasn’t making a like for like comparison, just stating he’s no better than Redmond. His age, height, weight, or shoe size have no relevance in that.

So?

He’s no better than Redmond.

The back ups to Sterling are in the same bag talent wise as him. Whilst he’s on top of his game, whoever comes in would probably start for most other countries. The drop off in talent is between Kane & DCL, The centre halves (IMO) and maybe in nets.

2-0 up and taking Bobby Charlton off to rest him. My old mans never forgiven him.

“Everyone’s vote should mean something”. All that was asked is how this happens under a non crap system.

I still think people are struggling to understand what the initial discussion was about in their rush to discredit you. You are correct, that was Soggy’s claim. It wasn’t that X % gets you X number of seats, his initial claim was that every single vote means something, that no votes are wasted on a losing candidate.

Agreed. The stock piling of full backs looks inspired now, because the modern game requires real freshness in that position. James & Chilwell will be fresh as daisies if the worst comes to the worst and the ones that played become fucked. Same with Phillips & Rice, Henderson’s at their level and Bellingham looks able to deputise as well. For me, barring injuries to Kane, McQuire, Stones and maybe the keeper, this squad can cope pretty well with anything else.

Interesting. Is there one where every single vote means something, because that was the claim.

Just read online that Southgate was knocked back by us as a youth. Was training in the same year group as Alan Shearer, but let go at 13. Went onto palace wanting to prove us wrong.

We also look fresher than most teams. Normally the hard slog of an English season does us in, but everyone is in the same boat this season. The ideal scenario is for Spain to beat Italy on penalties. That will then be 3 games running they’d have needed extra time, it’s like playing an extra game.

Correct. “More” votes would mean something under PR. But that’s not what SOG was claiming. He was claiming that “every” vote would mean something. He then doubled down, claiming the same twice more, before accusing people who didn’t agree that under PR “every vote counts”, of being “stoned”.