Lord Duckhunter

I would be livid as well. To single out football Is a cheap easy point. Nobody is hassling Paul McCartney or Elton John. Where are the calls for Steve Coogan, Hugh Grant or Liam Gallagher to take a pay cut, hell why aren’t politicians calling out their own millionaires like Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt & Nadhim Zahawi. Football does loads for local communities and I bet players do more hospital visits than any other line of “celebrity “. Bournemouth are taking loads of stick regarding furloughed workers but I know for a fact they do absolutely loads of this sort of stuff. My friend lost his 18 year old and Bournemouth (Callum Wilson in particular) were absolutely fantastic to the lad when he was dying. I’ve no doubt most footballers will be doing the right thing, quietly. They don’t need big mouth politicians and pundits lecturing them on how to behave. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

People are all over the place on this. Some claiming you can be back at work 10 mins after a positive test and others not realising it’s a 7 day period of isolation if you’re displaying symptoms. It’s an incredibly more complex issue than the test negative/back to work brigade make out. My snap dragon is on the front line and to protect her 100%, she would need a test every other day at least, as would me, my son and my daughter who are living with her. It’s not really feasible, or affordable when you multiply that by the number of nhs workers. Testing can help, but getting NHS workers with symptoms who test negative back to work, isn’t one of the benefits. As you have rightly pointed out the only thing that will make a blind bit of difference is a test to determine whether you’ve had it and are consequently immune. Once we get a test with a degree of accuracy, and proof you can’t re catch it, society can start to return to normal. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Have you been asleep the past 10 days. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My point is that it’s much more complicated than people are making out. Too easy to just say that a negative test means you can go back to work safe in the knowledge you’re clear. That status my change the very next day. Surely people displaying symptoms but testing negative need a daily test if they’re working normally, is that really feasible? If it is, great. Anyone with no symptoms, or symptoms but pass a daily test can work. I’m not sure I’d want my snap dragon working on the front line alongside someone coughing & sneezing all day, even if they did pass a test 2 days earlier. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Can you still become infected at the same time you have a cold/cough. Under your “simple to understand” explanation. Could someone test negative one day & catch it the next? Does the test stop you being infected? No, therefore surely you need to test everyday. Otherwise a nurse on a Covid ward could test negative one day, catch it 3 days later but continue to work because her negative test makes her think she’s only got her original “cold”. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Those of you sticking up for plod need to watch this. Bloke films a jobsworth traffic warden on his phone & 5 plod turn up to invite him for an “interview”, including one with his hand constantly on his taser. None of them 2 meters apart, yet people claim it’s the public that are the idiots. If anyone believes these new powers aren’t going to their head, they’re deluded. https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJamesKent3/status/1245249108148879362 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Not entirely it’s not. As per usual, you give them a inch & they take a mile. Despite your rush to stick up for plod it’s noticeable you don’t answer the question of where were they pre this virus? I’ve never seen so many round here, **** me, they were even patrolling the streets of Poole last night. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Footballers contracts mean that if they have to take a pay cut they are entitled to a free transfer. That’s one of the reason clubs won’t ask them to do so. Can anybody say hand on heart that all agents and players will act honourably once this is all over and not take advantage of that. ****ing hell, it’s hard enough to hold them to contacts when they haven’t got the right to a free..... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I’ve never seen so many about, begs the question WTF were they doing pre lockdown. It’s a ****ing jobsworths & busybodies wet dream. When this is all over I hope some politicians & pressure groups step up the plate, because Governments become addicted to telling us what to do. Once authority get given extra powers on a temporary basis, it’s extremely difficult to get them back. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What are you on about, very much in their favour. They’d have won the ****ing league by now. I’d say things are very much going against them. It’s easy to be blasé about voiding it when your teams in mid table and will have a 9-0 wiped from the record. If we needed 2 points from 9 games to make the champions league, you’d be one of the first moaning. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Rubbish. There’s not one person in the country that doesn’t think Liverpool will win the title. If the season is voided it’ll be remembered as the season a freak event robbed them of the title. Only sad sacks and Man Utd fans will deny that. Not that Liverpool will particularly care. I don’t get the hatred for them over this, they’ve acted pretty classy, Klopp in particular. You can bet your bottom dollar that when it comes to clubs putting their self interest above all else and acting without class Liverpool will be way behind the West Ham’s and Newcastle’s of the world by the time this is all over. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It is being paused because that’s the fairest thing to do at the present time. Whether that remains sustainable as weeks become months is another thing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

And I presume you’d be saying exactly the same thing if it was our promotion winning season under Nigel Adkins, or if we were 25 points ahead of 5th and pretty much guaranteed champions league football next season. Nobody is pausing the season to please Liverpool , in fact Klopp & Liverpool have shown a lot of class at this moment in time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I live by the park, and was walking my dog. Perhaps you should read the Government advice yourself before you start preaching to others. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

****ing jobsworths are in their element. There’s videos doing the rounds of a traffic warden ticketing an ambulance & a copper issuing a fine to a shop keeper for marking 2 meter lines in chalk outside her shop. I’ve just come from the local park where they’ve stationed a high viz bod, stopping people parking up, asking people what they’re doing & generally acting like a twt. This is the same park that did **** all when gypos turned up last summer & also started charging cars to park because they couldn’t afford for a bloke to unlock & lock the barrier each day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Nobody is have a ****ing contest. People are discussing various aspects of the situation & the Government’s response to it. Get off your high horse, thousands upon thousands of people die each winter, that shouldn’t stop legitimate debate. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

That’s the way we record flu deaths. If someone dies of cancer, or another serious disease, this is recorded as the cause of death, even if the final illness was flu. Because Covid is a notifiable disease that’s what goes down as the cause if they’ve tested positive. The effect is the UK historically underreport flu deaths and could now be over reporting Covid deaths. The real impact can be seen when total deaths for the year is looked at, a big spike in that will indicate people dying of Covid, that wouldn’t have died of seasonal illness, old age, or their existing health condition.

That doesn’t address the fact that if you’re not testing everyone, you can’t establish a true rate. That might be the % of people who test positive & then subsequently die, but how do you count the numbers who recover without reporting it, or even those that have had it without realising? You’re also not addressing the point regarding people with undiagnosed underlying health conditions. When so many people are dying in such a short space of time, I doubt their conducting PM’s to establish whether there were any. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Death rates are dependant on too many factors to draw many conclusions at this moment in time. Reporting isn’t standardised and clearly the numbers you test affect the %. There’s a clear difference between people who die of the virus and people who die with the virus. The press reporting all these deaths and statistics is just frightening people and it’s irresponsible imo. People get scared if youngsters die, or middle aged people with no underlying condition, but is that reflective? My snap dragon had a conversation with a senior consultant at her work who made the point that many people may die with an undiagnosed underlying health condition, which will get reported as no underlying health condition. For example, If Fabrice Muamba caught and died of Coronavirus a month before the incident on the pitch, it would be a young man dying of the virus, with no underlying health condition. I’m not suggesting things get covered up, but there’s context to everything. I wouldn’t mind betting that as tragic as it’ll be, 99.9% of deaths will be the elderly, infirm, and the seriously ill. Unfortunately too many people want to score political points. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I would play them as a straight knock out midweek tournament, like the European cup used to be. At the end of the day, something has to give. Personally, I’d rather it was internationals than domestic games. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

You’ve misunderstood. The World Cup remains in place, but that time will be the end of season as opposed to the middle. 2019/20 season ends Nov ‘20 2020/21 season Feb ‘21-Oct ‘21 21/22 season Feb ‘22- Oct ‘22 followed by World Cup. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I think they’ll do everything possible to complete the season, even if it is Oct/Nov. They could even temporarily adjust the subsequent seasons with the Qatar World Cup being at the end of the 21/22 season instead of the middle of the 22/23 season. They could then gradually bring the seasons back in line over 3 or 4 years. They may not even want to, personally I wouldn’t be against trying summer football for the top level. Going to games in June/July is far more appealing than Jan/Feb to me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Nothing is fair until every side plays everybody home & away. Villa have games in hand, we lost 9-0 to Leicester (affecting our goal difference badly) but teams won’t play City or Liverpool twice, which are games they could conceivably lose 5 or 6. Liverpool could win the league but only have the 4th or 5th best record in the new season. There’s only 2 outcomes that are fair, & will keep the lawyers out of it, void or finish. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Some labour people are showing class. For all Corbyns “ I was right “ pony, and interviewers desperate scramble for their gotcha moment, Burnham seems more in touch with the public than most of labour. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thanks again, this was what my daughter was told. Looks like she may fall between the gaps. Her dentist boss can only do emergency work (advised by government) so his income is significantly down, yet at the moment he doesn’t seem to be able to furlough her, so will have to lay her off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk