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And me, but I'm glad it's DD doing the groundwork rather than Labour. Gove going to DEFRA is also a good sign. One thing for sure is we're a lot further away from the dead hand of The EU than we were 2 years ago. The Tories should do their deal, then call a GE. Take it or leave on WTO rules. There are 2 linked, but separate issues here. Terms of leaving the EU & then future arrangement. You can have the first without the second. If the people reject the Tory future arrangement & want labour to go and negotiate one, that's democracy at its finest. Exactly why I voted Leave in the first place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

McDonnell on Peston today discussing the single market. "I don’t think staying in is feasible. Let’s be clear, we’re respecting the decision of the referendum. We are democrats. I think people will interpret membership of the single market as not respecting that referendum". He also added that he didn't thing staying in would even be on the table . Seems pretty straight forward to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It could have been written by Ed Milliband. However, what will the next one look like. Ken Livingstone was quoted by Andrew Neil saying "the electorate had a taste of Socialism and they liked it. We need to give them more socialism,if we're going to make the final push". If Corbyn, Milne, McDonnell, Abbott, Len & the rest of the head bangers think the same,they're ****ed.

Does this apply to the manager? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Again correct. Their weakness will actually keep them together. Frasier Nelson claimed he was speaking to the "usual suspects" on the back benches and they genuinely think that Corbyn in number 10 will do irreparable damage to the country that will take years to repair. He claimed had Yvette Cooper or Andy Burnham been labour leader they'd move against May & if that leads to a moderate labour government so be it. He claims the strategy is to dig in and hope that the Blairittes do the job of undermining Corbyn for them. Whether it's true or not I don't know, but Nelsons going to be closer to the Tory back benches than any of us on here. A couple of things work in their favour. The DUP pretty much vote with the Tories on most stuff anyway. And the DUP's bargaining position isn't as strong as people make out. They absolutely do not want a Corbyn administration, so when push comes to shove, won't vote down a Tory government, they're basically Orange Tories anyway. And the boundary changes due in 2018. Reducing the numbers of seats to 600 probably won't get through, but equalising constituencies probably will as you can't fight the 2022 election on 12 year old boundaries. These favour the Tories , so sticking around until after their in place is an attraction. 3 years time Corbyn could face having to make 80 gains to win an overall majority. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wiping the floor, as in losing the referendum? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Have you noticed the birds who sell their story, or their "friends" sell their story are all conned & take some persuading to get into bed. The players all seem to have to spend ages wowing them & promising they've ditched their wives before these poor innocent flowers will "make love" to them . None of them are "that sort of girl" either. Where have all the slappers gone, it must be terrible being famous and trying to pull these sensible types. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Do you want another election, or not? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**** sake, you lefties are all over the place. "May must go", if she does , "we've got a pm nobody voted for ". Why don't you just say you don't accept the result & want a re-run. Why break with tradition, it's what you do after every vote you don't win . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Of course Labour wouldn't buy the DUP's votes to get crucial legislation through would they? Far too principled for that. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7449268.stm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Didn't that fat Skate Quinn say he'd spoken to Conte when he was bragging about Liverpool early in the week. He seemed pretty well briefed, so it's probably true. Let's face facts, he wants to go. No point in clutching at straws, the signs were there when he didn't attend the end of season bash. Just like the Lovren hairdresser story, people are willing it not to be the case but surely everybody's head says he's offski. The only way he'll stay is if we give him some sort of gentleman's agreement "stay another year and we'll sell you for slightly less". But what is the benefit to him & why would his people take the word of our people with a takeover imminent? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There's a slight difference between inviting the IRA to parliament a few weeks after they've tried to assassinate the British Cabinet and holding talks with a legitimate party standing in a democratic election nearly 20 years after the GFA. The issue I have with Corbyn is the rewriting of history. The narrative that he was somehow seeking peace & a solution. We've had Martin Mcguiness as eduction Sec for NI for ****s sake, the GFA meant that you have to hold your nose when dealing with NI politicians. But Corbyns fan boys won't accept his role in this, they have to lie. If Corbyn wasn't leading the Labour Party I'm sure he'd use the same weasel words that Adams and others use when talking about the loss of lives & the armed struggle. Instead he insults our intelligence by making out he was some sort of peace maker. It wasn't just the Tory press hammering him. Kinnock, Mowlem, The Guardian, SDLP’s Seamus Mallon, former deputy first minister of Northern Ireland and one of the architects of the peace process, said ‘I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.’ Ex-IRA terrorist Sean O’Callaghan said he ‘played no part ever, at any time, in promoting peace in Northern Ireland’ and any suggestion otherwise is ‘a cowardly, self-serving lie So labour leaders, Leftie newspapers, the leader of the mainstream Republican Party and even an IRA terrorist say Corbyn had nothing to do with peace, yet his fan boys insist he was. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Has FF been coaching Hart on free kicks whilst on England duty.

It's just a phrase made up by remoaners to try & get us to stay in the single market. Did you ever hear it used during the referendum campaign. All I heard was Osborne & Cameron , along with Clegg, Gove & Boris stating that a vote to leave will be a vote to leave SM. lately I've noticed that some remoaners have started saying a hard Brexit is WTO terms, whereas previously they said it was sm The only real difference between Labour & Tory positions is the Tories claim they will walk away under WTO terms if no deal is possible, whereas labour will sit down and accept any deal. To negotiate you have to make the other side think you will walk away, when in reality they probably wouldn't. The reality of the situation, whether our political class like it or not, is that any party that accepts a deal which includes freedom of movement,or any party that blocks a deal that limits free movement, is going to commit electoral suicide. So if the EU insist that membership must include freedom of movement, we're leaving the SM. They'll probably be some sort of transitional arrangement, spread over a number of years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Some people genuinely don't seem to get this. Little Owen Jones stated that everyone in the Labour Party who said he couldn't win, owes Steptoe an apology. What form would this take? "Sorry I doubted you Jezza, I said you couldn't win..................and you didn't" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wrong again. I've voted against the Tories more than I've voted for them,in something like a dozen elections. I voted for them this time, not particularly because of May, but because Corbyn & his henchmen are lunatics. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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This is what John Curtice wrote in the Guardian There is a risk that, because the election result is being greeted through the prism of the widespread expectation that Labour would lose badly, it is forgotten that not only did Labour lose, but it did so almost as badly as in 2010, when Gordon Brown’s administration was ejected from power. Corbyn might have succeeded in persuading many voters that he was an effective party leader after all, but he has still not demonstrated that he can persuade enough to do so to be able to take his party to victory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Perhaps you could explain how he won. Won what? Most votes, most seats, highest %, became PM? What's this "round " you're on about? Have we suddenly become French? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What the week he didn't get elected? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My prediction was wrong, big deal. So was almost every single political pundit. If everybody who got a prediction wrong on a football forum stopped posting , it'd be a pretty boring place,with boring posters afraid to make a prediction, btw , what was yours? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Most people's opinion was he's unelectable, turns out he was unelectable. Although some seem to think by losing, he proved he was a winner. It's like people saying Saints couldn't win the EFL final, & Claude saying " we proved those people who said we couldn't win wrong, by losing 3-2. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What you on about, my party? I don't have a party, I vote for who I consider the best for the UK. I'm with his back benchers, I have no confidence in Corbyn being capable of leading this country. There's a reason after 30+ years in parliament nobody has considered him front bench material. We dodged a bullet yesterday and I think you lefties are underestimating the Tories ability to ruthlessly hold onto power. Labour have now failed to win 3 elections running & now have Corbyn & his henchmen entrenched. The blair wing won't keep quiet for too long, particularly if Trident & other further left policies are proposed. If I was a Tory strategist I'd play the long game. Nothing controversial, just run the country with the DUP & May in charge. DD will get a Brexit deal that labour will have to sign up to or appear to be blocking Brexit .Then they can move on May. A seat should be found for Davidson , Lord Mundell has a certain ring to it. Davidson soon calls election to get her own mandate and it's Davidson against 71/72 year old Corbyn. There's no other way they can play it. If they call an election within the next 2 years , they're screwed. They won't move on May yet as she's the patsy. They've got their backs to the wall, but they've got an unelectable opponent. If they can drag this out for 4 years, that's plenty of time to get a fresh face in and plenty of time for the moderates to rip the Labour Party in two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk