Lord Duckhunter

He wouldn't have made it on the ballot with the present threshold without the biggest suicide mission in modern politics . People who didn't want him to win , didn't vote for him , " lent " him their nomination .

Syrian or non Syrian , surely once they're in France they become economic migrants trying to reach the uk rather than Aslyum seekers fleeing persecution and or war . I always thought our NATO & EU ally was a safe haven.

length of contract doesn't really mean **** all when it comes to managers , it's the terms and length of any severance that's the key . Pardew had an 8 year contract with Newcastle but if it was written in that they could sack him and pay him up a years money , he is ineffective on a rolling 1 year contract . I also very much doubt Palace had to pay Newcastle anymore than if he was on a one year rolling contract . I think a one year rolling contract with a low severance deal for both sides would be a pretty good comprimise really . Ron seems to attract players because of who he is and going into his last year creates a little bit of uncertainty. Would VvD have signed if he thought Ron was off this summer?

I would have said Kos , I think it's a wonderful island . Don't know what the situation is there now . Crete is nice , hippy beach Matala is one of my favourite beaches . Wherever you go the Greeks are wonderful hosts .

So it looks like this ridiculously over paid flop , is hanging out for more money rather than a move to further his career . Doesn't quite tie in with the Gastonettes assertion that he really tries hard & is clearly talented . He's been nicking a living off us for years & thankfully we only have 6 more months to put up with the useless lump . Why doesn't he sign for them with a clause to double his money based on certain criteria ? After all , the Gastonettes keep telling us that he's suited to the Italian game .

Like he was for Hull last season , how did his " efforts" there go?

Just watched Catch up & saw Andrew Neil take this neuclear subs using conventional weapons guff apart in an interview with Posh Emily Thornbury . She then became the third shadow cabinet minister ( according to him ) to invite him to contribute to a " review" . Every time he gets them in a muddle they resort to this " review" of a particular policy line .

The Corbynistas need to understand this simple fact . To gain a majority they need to win Tory seats . Racking up votes and increasing support in Islington & other leftie enclaves won't win them 1 extra seat , well maybe Brighton Pavilon , but thats it . They do remind me of the famous Michael Foot story , he refused to believe opinion polls because everywhere he went he was mobbed, praised & cheered to the rafters . Jezza has engaged thousands of people , but NONE of them voted Tory at the last election .

I maybe a boring twt but this has always fascinated me . The transition from player to manager and how good you have to be . One of the biggest surprises in my football watching life is George Graham's Arsenal , anyone who saw George as a player would find it hard to equate that classy skilful player with the way he managed his sides . I always think managers that felt they underachieved as a player ( whether through injury or lack of ability ) have the drive that makes them s great manager . Cloughie being the real example as he had his career cut short . Maybe lawrie felt the same , as even to play at the semi professional level he played , you need to be decent . I never saw him play , but my Fulham supporting grandad said Bobby Robson was a really good player . As for saints , Bally was a great player as was Souness & Koeman . Personally , I think Souness was the best player , but Bally was a Saints player whereas the other 2 weren't. I still miss the guy , what a player , and what a guy . Legend

100% in agreement. It would be mad to tie him to a new deal , especially before Ron signs one . Another manager might not fancy him and any new deal will be for a large wedge . In some ways his situation is similar to Rickies and it maybe time to cash in . It certainly won't be " meltdown " if we do

I thought Ryan B had a fantastic game. When I saw the side I assumed he'd play left mid in front of Matty T , but the way Ron set them up worked perfectly against their front 2 . Pleased for Targett , played well particularly first half , still a long way to go for the lad but he really did look the part . Agree with the comments about Big Vic being left but against WBA , itll be interesting to see what Ron does about it . Pelles slightly different he could change formation & play Pelle & Long or even drop Mane for Pelle , but to break up the Classie,Davis, OR midfield would be really disappointing

Lol

Could be a Bompey v skate cup game

The Blair/ Brown years were pure smoke & mirrors . PFI, minimum wage so low as to be meaningless , ridiculous spread of tax credits , devolution without addressing the west lothian question , overspending during a boom . Their chickens have well and truly came home to roost. I'm not saying this lot are any better as they're also shying away from the fundamental reforms needed , whilst pretending they are doing so. The public would not vote for a returning Blair anymore than they'd vote for Jeremy Steptoe .

I can't see Levy making it as easy to buy him out of his contract as Cortese did with his Saints contract . I'm sure he'll be tied down quite tightly & it'll cost them a few quid . Not that they're lacking money , but are they really going to battle/ cough up for a rookie ( never managed in champions league , never won anything ) . They also won't chuck Giggs overboard and Poch seems to have a gang of buddies he carries with him . The massive clubs will want to see how he handles superstars before they employ him. He's done a pretty decent job at Spurs & with us ,but managing that level of player ,is a long way from managing players that are more important to the club than the manager himself .

There is absolutely no doubt that Ron will expect players to leave when champions league clubs come calling and will factor that in when managing a club like ours . Only an idiot would think we could keep hold of these players . I thought one of the reasons we went Dutch was because their managers are used to losing their best players season in season out. I'm not convinced by Ron , so I'm unsure of this deal . We weren't as good as we thought last year , but aren't as poor as some make out on here. Not being a professional or close to the club it's hard to comment , but the side and individuals don't look as well coached as before . Unlike some I like the flexibility he shows tactically , although he does get it wrong sometimes . I have thought for a while that out style relied too much on Pelle and that shows when he's off colour or missing . That said , he seems like a calm stright sort of guy that will nring a bit of stability . He does need to move on or sign a new deal in the summer but I'd be happier if it was for 3 rather than 5 years

I don't think for one minute that he's been let down , lied to or misled about our spending , players sales or wages . Personally, I've no doubt that the board outlined our approach when speaking to him initially and he accepted them . I refuse to believe that they told him nobody would be leaving , or he was promised a certain amount and that's not been forthcoming . If anyone has moved the goal posts it's likely to have been Ron now he's under a bit of pressure . Perhaps the spending by other " also rans" has surprised him and he now feels that we should push the boat out a bit more . Equally I'm sure he had every intention of agreeing to our pathway regarding youth , but maybe they're not as good as he was led to believe.

The thing that his supporters don't seem to get is the complete incompetence of the man . Forget the fact that to win an election he needs to win Tory /Lab marginals , he's made balls up after balls up . Abandoned principle after principle & generally set the Labour Party back years . At least Foot was a serious political figure , even Livingstone was competent but wrong , this chump is just a student politician that never grew up . Anyone who thinks he'll do the lefts cause any good is deluded .

But are there Spurs supporters still banging on about how Solgado " clearly has talent" or going on about a particular game over & over again . Every club makes expensive mistakes , but I doubt their supporters are as doe eyed as the Gastonettes over these wasters .

**** me , is this the Gastonettes new line ? That somehow he kept us up . He did not make a blind but of difference , did not keep us up and has done absolutely nothing since . A monumental waste of money , one of the worst signings in my 45 years of watching the club .

I don't like the guy , but that's nonsense & Scouse friends of mine who go will tell you it's nonsense .

Spot on . The only " loyal" players at a club our size are ones nobody from a bigger club wants . Some clown on the train sat was banging on about Frannie's loyalty and questioning why our players aren't as loyal now . Only reason he was loyal was because nobody wanted him . Had SAF said " Frannie I want to build my treble wining defence around you , oh & quadruple your money " , he'd been gone quicker than a really quick thing . Matt Le Tiss , I hear you cry . Maybe, but what would he had done had Fergie wanted him instead of Cantona and for him to be the talisman for the class of ' 92 , would he have turned that down ? The only loyalty comes from us lot , end of.

Maybe Moyes with a younger man , with Moyes stepping into Les' shoes in a few years , handing the reins to the younger man .

Don't talk nonsense man . With the injury records of Remy & Austin , coupled with the wages they'd want , I'm glad we're not splashing the cash like that . Ask yourself why Shelvey is available , why Curtis , like Monk & Laudrap before him have had issues with him . If palace sign those 3 they really are entering the madhouse . One maybe worth the risk, but all 3 is lunacy

He didn't " fail miserably " at Burnley . Your post doesn't make sense . If he failed miserably at Burnley what was Monk at Swansea , a roaring sucsess? You put the caveat in that you want to se Monk at another club . Presumably if he got them to the premiership , let's say someone like Boscombe , you'll want him ? Anyway, as you rightly say he's pretty much dug in for the long haul and it'll take a bigger job than ours to get him out of there . Maybe a Spurs or Everton . Personally , I'd want an Adkins type , as in somebody who is not going to be offered a top top job and will see this as a long term thing . Not an introduction to the English game or a short spell to tick a few boxes . People go on about a Vardy , Alli or a Lambert coming from the lower leagues , there has to be a manager in the same boat. Howe would be ideal imo , but there's Robinson at MK or even Dyche at Burnley . This is where Les needs to come into his own . Cortese's signing of Poch was a master stroke that came out of left field , maybe Les can pluck someone with real potential out of the championship