Lord Duckhunter

Not if you only want the brightest and the best its not. Or if you want the fairest system.

They ban ex BNP members from the party, the liblabcon don't. To me there's 3 coherent lines to take on immigration. 1. Ban everybody no matter which country them come from. 2. Let everybody in, no matter which country they come from 3. Have a system that bases numbers on quality and the needs of the UK economy. Importantly, it shouldn't matter which country you come from, just which skills you have and your willingness to contribute to our society. An incoherent policy is ; Pick 26 countries and use policy 2 from above. Whilst using policy 3 for the rest of the world. Would the anti ukip posters be happy if they picked 26 countries and changed their policy for those countries? Would this make them less anti immigrant. What if they allowed unrestricted immigration from Australia, new Zealand, Canada, USA,Switzerland, Norway, and Iceland, whilst imposing restrictions on Indians, Chinese, Jamaicans and Africans. Would people say, " wow, what an inclusive fair and nice party they are". .

But what if allowing more poles and Romanians in means that less people from Africa or India are able to live and work here. Why should somebody from Germany be treated differently than somebody from India?

That Katrina is a right selfish *****, why run it as a business? She should use all her money to get us in the champions league.

'96 Euros matt was at his absolute best and Venables left him out. Never really understood the resentment against Hoddle in '98 . He made his decision and that's what he's paid for.

Do you think there should be any limit on immigration or can anybody turn up and work in the UK?

We need to get our players in before selling anyone. If we get big money for Adam and Shaw, the price will go up on any players we look to bring in. Although spurs bought badly last summer their timing was spot on. They got the players in and then sold Bale.

Nonsense. Their away support is always really good.

Reports that Carroll has been told he's on stand by so looks like Rickie is a defo. What a fantastic story, legend.

I've recently employed polish and Romanian workers. They were the best candidates in a selection process that included Brits. Therefore is it right to assume that those British people who didn't get the job were adversely affected. During the boom we were struggling to recruit for our minimum wage jobs, we didn't need to put the wages up to attract people because we suddenly got a steady supply of very willing and hard working people to take those jobs. Is it beyond your comprehension to see that the effect of this kept wages down As a white middle class 50 year old , immigration hasn't really affected me much, but then I guess the " cost of living crises" hasn't really hit the milliband household, doesn't stop him having an opinion though doers it? Are you seriously saying that you can only comment on issues that affect yourself, that's quite a selfish point of view. For low paid unskilled poor people, immigration from eastern Europe has been a nightmare, not to mention builders etc who have had their wages undercut. Then there's the democratic deficit. As a democratic I believe that the British people should govern themselves, should decide who comes into our country and in what numbers. If they decide that its in our best interests to have open borders, then so be it. The party that proposes that will put it to the people, when the people decide enough is enough, they'll kick the government out. That's a thing called democracy.

I was in Cyprus in the summer, there are loads and loads of Russians living there. There are Americans in France, Spain and Germany. The pro EU side claiming all UK nationals will be sent home, whilst Russians , Aussies and Yanks can stay is clearly nonsense.

So who else knows about this" hidden agenda"? I would have thought the agenda was anything but " hidden" , the name UKIP is the biggest clue. Oh, I can't wait until this hidden agenda is revealed. Who is going to announce it, cleggy,? Maybe ken clarke ,or are they going to leave it to you. Although it could remain hidden to all but the enlightened ones. Exciting isn't it?

You really do spout some nonsense, go on enlighten us, what is this " hidden agenda" What worrys me is the liblabcon's hidden agenda, I don't know what it is or have any proof, but because I post it, it must be true lol.

If someone stops them parading around with their brats I'll be happy. I want to applaud the players not their offspring. One of the things wrong with the modern game, you wouldn't see chopper Harris or bestie doing it.

Thank god the country doesn't take notice of what Williams and other EU extremists say. We'd be in the euro if it was down to that lot. See here's the thing with Europe , the people who were wrong time and time again are the people we're supposed to listen to. The people who told us it was a trading bloc when they wanted our vote, who told us the erm was good idea, who told us the euro was the way forward are now telling us we can't leave, are trying to frighten the people again. What was it the lib/dumbs claimed, that we'd lose jobs if we didn't join the euro, that foregin companies would relocate away if we didn't join the euro, they were wrong then and their wrong now. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter what I want or what you want or what Williams wants, it should be down to the British people. The ones denying the public a say are all pro EU, telling that isn't it.They know that a proper debate and vote on the EU will result in the British people seeing the EU king is in the altogether, they know that having fooled us once, they'll not be able to do so again. Why won't the pro eu side put their case to the British public?

Complete and utter nonsense, are you trying to say that there would be no holiday entitlement if we weren't in the EU, that we'd be swimming around on dirty beaches, that the labour government wouldn't have banned smoking at work, that we had 13 years of labour and they wouldn't have legislated against equal pay and labour protection. Complete and utter nonsense. Do the Swiss not have holidays, do Australians not recycle, are there not clean beaches in Florida? Laughable.......... Have you heard of Interpol? Have you not heard of NATO? When EU nutters bang on like this claiming we would be some sort of slave labour nation and we owe all our social benefits to the EU no wonder people vote ukip. Not one of the things you've listed couldn't be done out of the EU and we are quite capable of negotiating deals and cross border support and agreements where needed. I do like the"support for democracy" line. This from the body that didn't like the Irish or French democratic vote so made them keep on voting, from an organisation that is so corrupt its accounts haven't been signed for for over a decade. "Support for democracy"!!! That's the funniest line on here. As for your line about immigrants working from less being "hearsay" , well Williams made that exact point, she said there were immigrants doing jobs that British workers wouldn't do , because of the pay. This was when she also claimed that unemployment was low.

Where has all this " anti immigration" nonsense come from. Ukip are not anti immigration, their immigration policy for the whole world is exactly the same as the liblabcon's is for Africans and Chinese. Are the liblabcon anti African? Anti EU people used to argue about section y, sub section x of treaty z, and nobody quite understood the problem and we ended up with this straight banana nonsense. What Nigel has done very well is to point out the consequence of membership on peoples lives. The established parties tried to make out that immigration is a seperate issue than the EU. Nobody believes that now and hopefully Nigel will move on to other areas after this election, starting with the democratic implications of our membership. I want laws made in UK, 100% of them, end of. One final point about question time. Had Nigel denied the holocaust on Thursday's show, he could have been arrested and sent to Germany to stand trial, this is despite the fact he may have not set foot in Germany in his life. Now, holocaust denial is appallingly disgusting behaviour, but the fact is, it is not an offense in UK law. How on earth people are happy to belong to an organisation that allows British subjects to be arrested for something that is legal in the UK is beyond me. One thing for sure is that if Americans wanted this " right" lefties everywhere would be getting their sandals in a right twist. It seems that belonging to a special club means more to the establishment than rights and freedoms.

Williams needs to retire. Made the quite disgraceful point that there were jobs that only immigrants would do because they're too low paid for British people. She also said that unemployment was low. Had a Tory said that, the lefties would be calling him out of touch . Lucas was actually quite good and made her points well, although I disagree with them. The other 2 were typical of the modern breed of political blaggers. As for the " star of the show". Was that the chump who started with "Nigel please don't interrupt" , and then kept interrupting Nigel. He just ranted personal abuse at Nigel, no reasoned debate or ideas. Aa Lucas showed you can have a debate against ukip without resorting to abuse and personal attacks. All this " let's not blame, The Other" , which was obviously labours sound bite for the night, was nonsense. Surely its a reasonable conclusion to reach that immigration makes housing shortages worse, that for every Romanian working in Prezzo or a hotel, there is one less job for an English youngster. One last thing, afterwards turned on sky news where an expert was discussing the takeover. The point he made was that the UK government couldn't block it alone and that "ultimately the EU will decide" if there was any attempt to block it. The exact point that Nigel made that the Tory and labourite tried to drown out. Overall I thought Lucas impressed me the most, Nigel was Nigel, Williams is batty .

Local elections are important, they can make a real difference . Since the Lib/dumbs lost control of our council, things have been better . UKIP are on the march locally, and this will be a base for seats at Westminster. Paul Nuttall spoke very well about this on The Daily Politics today. Anyway, people will get the chance to see the People's army leader tonight in Southampton. He's on QT , with Shirley Williams and Caroline Lucas, he's going to make mincemeat of those 2. Last week Dimble announced that the old EU obsessed buffoon Ken Clarke was on, but he looks like he's bottled it as Grant Shapps is replacing him.

So what's the excuse going to be when ukip do fantastically in the local elections . Do they mean **** all as well?

I wouldn't mind going back to 1950's educational standards.

Isn't it funny that the people most pro EU are the ones belittling these elections. I know the EU is fundamentally undemocratic, but surely the people of in, should be bigging up EU elections?

The biggest load of pony I've had the misfortune to read. But then again what do you expect from someone who swings from the daily mail to the guardian. She is the worst type of gutter journo pretending to be an intellectual. Made up a story that Germaine Geer had a hysterectomy, which had littlejohn or gaunt done would have had lefties calling for castration. Love to see her face when nigels people army shakes things up later this month, let's hope they do better than she did when she stood for election and lost her deposit.

Spot on. How many times in the past 50 years have we finished above ; Liverpool, Utd,Arsenal,Everton and Spurs. Not many times I'd guess, then add the spending power and size of City and Chelsea and people then might realise what we're competing against.Villa and Spurs have spent millions recently and still haven't cracked champions league and they're bigger clubs than us.

Spot on. Maybe someone could convince Luke it is in the interest of his career to stay and develop for another year, but Adam at his age needs to go. Put it like this, if he was my son I'd be pushing him to make a move and I speak as a saints fan of 40 years. People bang on about matt , but he didn't go to a world cup, didn't play champions league and hardly opp played for England. Adam is at the top of his game, the right age and has given us his all for a number of seasons. He deserves a crack at the top top level, and sadly that's not us.