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Yeah, these all sound great, there's no better quality than a sequel to a horror film is there? Even though all of the original stars and the director and writer have usually jumped ship. I predict most of those films will be awful and will just try to repeat one popular part of their predecessors and do that badly. Diminishing returns. What would be exciting would be a new and clever/creepy idea. I loved The Orphanage, but the last thing I'd bother with would be The Orphanage 2.

But you are drug addicts, it is a dirty drug and this thread is concerned with wanting special consideration for taking drugs.

You're a ****ing genius, Delldays, but it's a bit simpler than that.

****ing hell, how many pages dedicated to a bunch of dirty drug addicts who want to have special consideration and have their drug habit pandered to? Go home and take your filthy drugs there you whinging, whining *****s.

Oh, stop whining, you pathetic ****.

I really enjoyed your little section on this in "In That Number" too. Thanks for that.

OK I think you have to put Delgado as a higher price than Delap. Although officially Delgado was 3.5m and Delap was 4m, as part of the deal we had to take Chala for 1m even though we clearly didn't want him and had no use for him. So the real price we paid for Delgado was 4.5m making him our record signing. I think Phillips and Le Saux were our only signings in years who were already big names. You could say Kanchelskis was a big name, but you can't really include players who were completely washed up.

Armstrong and Ball

Visiting semen trying to find a fanny? What do you have to eat to make it travel that far?

I think it's basically just that some people have decided not to include MLT. I don't know why they've got such a downer on him. They've even put Jo Tessem in before MLT which is outrageous. If you ever saw the two of them play you'd know that, although Tessem was a hard worker, he wasn't fit to tie MLt's shoelaces. I'm sure the old "laziness", "didn't play for England enough times" etc rhetoric will be reeled out again, but I actually think MLT was one of our best ever players full stop. He certainly played many matches on the right for Saints.

I find this incredible. First MLT misses put on the RM slot and now it looks like he's going to be overlooked for the B team too. With "fans" with such poor memories of a true legend, we deserve just the results we're getting.

MLT was a genius, but he wasn't a left winger.

I've a bad feeling MLT's going to be second to Davies, Channon, Keegan and maybe even Moran as a striker. He's also going to be pushed by Ball, Williams, Case and Armstrong as a midfielder. He wasn't really a left winger so he'll probably lose out to Sydenham or somebody there. There isn't going to be an "in the hole" option, so we'd better all think about where he's going to fit in. Seious business

Never saw him, but I would vote for Paine just from reading the big book and seeing his record.

According to "the book", Le Tissier headed home from close rangeafter Ruddock's left wing cross. Moore headed home from an MLT corner. Team: Flowers, Kenna, Benali, Horne, Moore, Ruddock, MLT, ****erill, Shearer, Dowie, Hurlock

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I'm not voting on this one, I don't really remember seeing Golac and Mills, although I know others loved them when I was a kid. I would be disappointed if Dodd were our best ever as he was never a great player, just a long serving, reasonable RB.

Hexxagon

Missing off the I in this sentence is an acceptable colloquial alternative. A bit like "No, can't make it tomorrow." It's very different from poor grammar. Also, I can't work out how invariably can't is a split infinitive. An infinitive is, for example , to run, to jump or to swim. A split infinitive is to put a word in between those two. For example I would like to quickly run home. I like to always jump. I'm not interested in correcting anyone's English, but I don't think your criticisms are relevant or correct. I do agree that it's funny that the people complaining about immigrants often aren't quite patriotic enough to bother mastering English. The success of the language is surely the proudest achievement of the British.

LB Marcus Hall?

Actually my brother is a tradesman and has built up a big, successful and reliable company in the Southampton area and has won awards several years in a row for being England's top window fitting and conservatory building company. So it wasn't meant to be taken literally, more of an angry rant. We had a house built a couple of years ago. The builders/carpenters did a pretty shoddy job in many places and we had to pester them day and night to get them to do the basics. They would not even bother turning up for days/weeks on end, then when we complained, they would put about 8 men on it for a few days, then it would stop again. When they said the house was ready, we went through it with an independent building surveyor who helped us list 73 separate items that needed sorting before the house would be ready. The plumbers were even worse and while I was working on floors and walls, there was a constant smell of raw sewage coming from behind a wall. It took months to get them to bother to come out and fix what they had done after they kept trying to blame everybody else. They also managed to place the sewage outlet pipe for the toilet so it was half under a wall, so the concrete floor had to be partly dug up to fix it. We had to redesign our kitchen because they put the pipes in the wrong place and also move a bathroom wall for similar reasons. The electrics seemed fine and we thought he was the only reliable one until earlier this year when the underfloor heating in one of the bathrooms stopped working, then the other followed suit. He said he'd be out in a couple of weeks to fix it. That was in June. After hassling him on the phone he gave a couple more appointments he didn't keep. Then he said we should get somebody else to do it and send him the bill. We told him we didn't trust this as we couldn't be sure he'd still be around to pay it. He said he'd come the next day. This was a couple of weeks ago. The next day he doesn't show up so we call again, he says he's just declared bankruptcy and no longer has any obligation, even though we'd been waiting for months. So yes, I have some issues with tradesmen. Three out of three were lying, cheating, unreliable, lazy, dishonest ****s. Funnily enough, after what Bates said, we had some Polish people come around to fix something the builders had done and they were very good but said they were really busy fixing the rubbish work local tradesmen were doing. Obviously these are Norwegian rather than English tradesmen by the way.

Surely anyone who doesn't say It's a Wonderful Life hasn't seen it, or is just an idiot.

All tradesmen are unreliable deceitful, dishonest, lazy ******s. In this I include builders, carpenters, Electricians and plumbers. That is all.

I'm pretty sure I said more than once that it is wrong. However, history does make abuse against a recently oppressed group more sensitive. As an unoppressed group, we have far less to be sensitive about. I agree that neither is acceptable, but I am amazed if you can't see why it's a more sensitive issue after what has happened in the cause of white against black racism compared to the other way around. My last post today and my last on the subject, I hate getting drawn into these things as nobody ever changed their mind because of an internet discussion.

I agree that abuse is wrong from anyone. However, you must recognise that there are far more issues in play here. In the western world, white people have never been systematically oppressed. The words "honky" or "white trash" have never been used as part of a culture of keeping one section of society on a level below another. It is very recent history that black people were heavily oppressed and were given far fewer civil rights than white people. Even in countries where segregation hasn't been a recent issue, black people were discriminated against in a far more serious way than white people ever have been. All racial abuse is wrong, but because of very real and recent oppression of a group, racial slurs are a far more sensitive issue against non-whites. Being called "honky" is not a result of a system where white people were taken from their homes, watched their families beaten and taken from them, refused basic freedoms and treated as an underclass. It doesn't symbolise anything strong to us at all. Words used to abuse non-whites carry a far heavier weight. It may seem unfair, but it's a price that is still being paid for some pretty shocking wrongs committed over a long timespan, and not that long ago. Non-whites who call white people racial names are being pretty dense not to recognise how wrong it is, but really, does the word "honky" actually mean anything to many of the people who post here?