benjii

It is means tested FFS, just in a different way. You only start paying it back when you earn enough money. Your means are tested retrospectively. It is clearly a much fairer method than upfront means testing which would help the poorest few, be of little consequence to the rich but shaft the vast majority of middle-income families. Further, universities wishing to charge the highest fees (remember this is an increase in a cap - not a prescirbed charge) will be required to provide bursaries. I still have yet to hear a single convincing argument as to how this reduces access to anyone who wants to do something a bit meaningful. I have no doubt it may put off a lot of people of middling intelligence who never would have got anywhere near a "university" when the obtaining of a degree actually counted for something from reading X-Factor studies at the university of West Rutland; but that is a good thing.

Dear, oh dear. The entire premise of this thread is what, that you generalise about a group of many millions of people? Or hundreds of thousands? Or just the parliamentary party? Depends what you mean by "Tories", I guess but if you need it pointed out to you that making crude generalisations is facile, immature and the action of a sad, bitter, political pigmy then I, for one, care not what you mean.

What a load of rubbish. The problem throughout the whole season has been failing to score goals from chances created when in charge of matches. Lambert is the most guilty of this and Puncheon probably comes in second. It would be nice to have Puncheon around but the fact that he isn't here at the moment is not the reason we are not higher up the table. "The problems have come about...." what utter, utter arse. Our form is better since he left than before, so it is just a complete arse-berry of a statement.

Comments above, sir. I am going to bed now and will not be on here for several days, so with this I bid you good night and all the best.

The NUS are a massive bunch of ****s whose agenda is not the good of higher education but rather the political success of the Labour party.

Exactly.

Utter rubbish. It's two hour's work. Get a ****ing job, or if you have one, work two more hours. Alternatively spend ten pounds less on other things. Most people at college are still supported by their parent. The notion that the majority need that hand-out is completely disingenuous. The EMA was a pitiful thing introduced by Labour for no good reason.

Half the people at uni will never put it to any good use as you suggest. There are people with a clutch of distinctly average A-Levels studying something like Law at former polytechnics. FFS, they are never going to get a job at a good law firm. The top firms are massively oversubscribed when it comes to graduate recruitment. There are plenty of similar scenarios. Access to university should be available for the brightest, regardless of economic means; it should not be for the masses.

So anything that was ever enjoyed by anyone should be freely available to all and sundry from then on in as a matter of principle? Ok, ignore the polemical bits; do you think students should be able to sign on the dole over the summer?

That just penalises those that do well. The proposed system is much fairer where everyone pays the same unless they are earning a pittance.

What utter rubbish.

Nah, just ignore them. ****s like that need the air of publicity to fuel their activities.

I've heard this point a few times and it is so obvioulsy retarded it takes me aback each time. On the same logic presumably students want to be able to sign on to the dole over the summer, women will campaign for disenfranchisement, Africans will chain themselves up and India will clamour for the reinstitution of the Empire?

The "graduate tax" is one. It sounds like a manifestly more unfair option to me though.

Absolutely right. Universities are being dumbed down in the same way as the education system has been. They should be for the academic elite. That is the point of them.

I presume you were there when Labour introduced fees and then top-up fees as well?

"Plenty of reasons why he ultimately end up into the sack". Love it. This guy is class and we are bloody lucky to have him around.

You screaming queen.

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"Bale was once more renowned for his hair clip than his devastating, lung-busting performances down the left-flank." See, they don't have a scooby what they're talking about.

I suspect this is a simple case of the BBC being incorrect. It happens.

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£20, bargain. I will go, I think. We are, how you say, de underdogssh?

Thank **** I am not you.