benjii

Really? I knew we'd win.

That's the kind of paragraph that makes me mad. We scored from one of the "terrible" corners in case you had forgotten. As for wasting crossing opportunities, he also put one right on a plate for Hammond about five yards out. I would suggest you might even have him mixed up with Antonio on a few occasions but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. We need to accept that players like Puncheon will lose the ball sometimes. However we should also be grateful that we have players with the confidence and ability to do some of the things he can do with it.

Don't think David Moyes agrees.

I hope they get into the Europa League. It will put pressure on their threadbare squad and result in embarrassing losses. Mind you, if I was Everton (or whoever would otherwise get in) I'd be doing everything I could to protest this.

Not really. Look at Wolves.

I agree with that but the land is a different matter and, as far as I know, has nothing to do with the debt owed to him by PFC. He bought it from Mandaric several years ago. I suppose the fundamental point is that he needs to be kept sweet or he can stymie the future prospects of the club in a way that the other unsecured creditors cannot.

Their left back. Obviously.

How can you mention that lot and not Puncheon?

Newsflash for pedg... no politician ever answers the question. Ever. Bunch of ****s, the lot of 'em.

They really are the cerebral pygmies of the political world.

There aren't many doubters. Everyone I see at matches seems 100% behind him. Only a few from the fringes on here seem to think we could do better.

"Worse support"

Jaidi bet Morgan £500 he'd never score! Great headline too.

Exactly right and a point I've made every time someone has said there's no reason to expect us to get automatic promotion next season. There is every reason unless you belief our team will be weaker.

If we win all our games we should do it. Huddersfield will need to average 2 points a game to stop us and they don't average two points a game. On top of that, they seem to be playing rather badly at the moment. Keep the belief!

Copied from the "Just back from the game" thread because I am a massive narcissist and because I know you all await my verdict with baited breath.... I'm back! Congratulations to whoever started the "Walsall are winning 4-2" rumour in the terrace. Brilliant work! We controlled the match from the off and conceded a silly goal. As soon as we scored the second it was game over though; Bristol had been most dangerous on the break and they were never going to catch us once we went ahead. Some ratings: KD - didn't really have anything to do. Handling and distribution was solid. 6 Semi - I had a bad view but appeared to be at fault for the penalty. Seems to have some sort of mental problem in relation to certain types of physical challenge and also concentration issues. Whether it's confidence or bottle remains to be seen. Anyway, without Murty or Thomas he's our best right back and provided some excellent forward runs as well as some good defending at times. 6 Fonte - faultless as usual. 8 Seabourne - really good game. Covered well and positioning was spot on. A couple of 50pence-piece-for-a-head moments but overall he continues to impress me. 8 Harding - usual solid self. What a brilliant signing. 7 Lallana - did well. Made the right choices and was unlucky not receive some better final balls when in good positions. 7 Hammond - Had a good game in possession and did his job well. 7 Schneiderlin - Probably his best game for Saints IMO even if he hadn't scored. Hardly ever gave it away and his positioning was spot-on. Unlucky to be booked. Brilliant goal. 9 Puncheon - put one on a plate for Hammond at 0-0. Made Lambert's first. Got fouled for Lambert's second. Scored one. Worked hard. Hassled well. Used the ball intelligently. 8 Antonio - tireless effort and some strong running in the first half. Got a bit ragged towards the end. A really great prospect who we must sign but I would revert to Barnard for the next couple of games. 6 Lambert - took his chances when they came and as usual preoccupied the hell out of the other team, creating space for others. 8 What a strange stadium. What a great result

I'm back! Congratulations to whoever started the "Walsall are winning 4-2" rumour in the terrace. Brilliant work! We controlled the match from the off and conceded a silly goal. As soon as we scored the second it was game over though; Bristol had been most dangerous on the break and they were never going to catch us once we went ahead. Some ratings: KD - didn't really have anything to do. Handling and distribution was solid. 6 Semi - I had a bad view but appeared to be at fault for the penalty. Seems to have some sort of mental problem in relation to certain types of physical challenge and also concentration issues. Whether it's confidence or bottle remains to be seen. Anyway, without Murty or Thomas he's our best right back and provided some excellent forward runs as well as some good defending at times. 6 Fonte - faultless as usual. 8 Seabourne - really good game. Covered well and positioning was spot on. A couple of 50pence-piece-for-a-head moments but overall he continues to impress me. 8 Harding - usual solid self. What a brilliant signing. 7 Lallana - did well. Made the right choices and was unlucky not receive some better final balls when in good positions. 7 Hammond - Had a good game in possession and did his job well. 7 Schneiderlin - Probably his best game for Saints IMO even if he hadn't scored. Hardly ever gave it away and his positioning was spot-on. Unlucky to be booked. Brilliant goal. 9 Puncheon - put one on a plate for Hammond at 0-0. Made Lambert's first. Got fouled for Lambert's second. Scored one. Worked hard. Hassled well. Used the ball intelligently. 8 Antonio - tireless effort and some strong running in the first half. Got a bit ragged towards the end. A really great prospect who we must sign but I would revert to Barnard for the next couple of games. 6 Lambert - took his chances when they came and as usual preoccupied the hell out of the other team, creating space for others. 8 What a strange stadium. What a great result.

We do that on hockey tour. Not even for offences - just for fun. The "Flamin a" is a drinking game - you can pull the roll out once you've finished your pint.

Yeah, fair enough. In hindsight, I'm not sure why I said your last post was twaddle. I think I must've been thinking about something else whilst I read it! Sorry old bean.

Assuming a 30% CVA, £85m unsecured debt including £15m football debt = a cost of £35m (15 + ((85-15)/3). If football debts aren't paid off in full then it's bye-bye Golden Share or (more likely), a significant points penalty. So, in order to avoid a points penalty in the Championship and assuming a 30% CVA is approved (and not subsequently challenged succesfully by HMRC), they will need to find someone who can commit at least £35m to the unsecured creditors. Now, that doesn't even begin to address Chanrai's debt, consideration for buying the assets and Gaydamak's land. Without Gaydamak's land you need to finance a new stadium to ever be competitive at a higher level as Fratton Park is hamstrung. Throw in to the mix continued uncertainty about what an investigation into their dealings might uncover and it's really not an attractive investment. Circa £50m for that?! Phil's theory might have some legs IMO.

What twaddle. Of course laws get tested; that's how they evolve. If you can draft a set of laws that no one ever seeks to test then you ought to give David Cameron a ring as you will be well in demand. I would also suggest you take case reports in the popular media with a pinch of salt.

I am Ken Darins.

I agree with that! I reckon I would've really enjoyed it at that age.

It depends what you mean by "get away with it" I suppose. I would consider a further points penalty next year and years in the doldrums to be not "getting away with it". We shall see.

I would be amazed if the Sun actually had a correspondent at the match!