benjii

Long Shot, great summary of the situation.

The "change of control" point is a complete red herring. Lenders insist on these clauses to protect themselves in the event that a parent company divests itself of the borrower or in the event that people assume control who the lender would have not wished to lend to in the first place. The clause would typically allow the lender to accelerate the loan, make a demand under a guarantee... etc There is no way in the world that Norwich Union would invoke such a clause if we were being taken over by anyone with a pot to **** in. They would welcome such a takeover as the current lot are clearly incapable, unwiling or both, to do anything to help the company financially.

On reflection you have to give even more credit to Crouch and Pearson for pulling out all the stops to keep us up last year, knowing full well that they would be getting the Royal Shaft from these two ungrateful cretins.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3869 It's an interesting question isn't it?

If only.

Seriously though... "excellent" job? We seem to be getting worse as each game passes.

Boll-ox. I'm not watching Eastenders.... what shall I do?

Agree completely. Leeds had mismanagement coupled with short-term success. We had mismanagement coupled with an upper mid-table league position and a lost cup final.

Is there any Champions League this week?

It seems quite obvious, doesn't it?

If that was a spoof interview it would be funny.

Have we got a match on Tuesday?

They failed. HTH.

That's what it looks like. Lowe and Cowan - £563,000 termination payments = Stern John (+ surplus?) for one year. Wilde's missing £2million = Rasiak, Andrew Davies, Safri, Pearson (+surplus?) for one year. By all means try and readjust the company's cost base, try and make it sustainable in the long-term but abandon your delusions and realise that this can't be done overnight. Headlong rush into oblivion is not the only option (unless you have nothing to offer). Pathetic.

I don't think it's split at all. I think everyone from blanket wearing, flask hugging wrinkly, polyestered up lairy little chav, old school "proper" thug, family man, corporate customer, knows that Lowe and Wilde are incompetent ruiners. I suspect the reticence to propagate the chant was due to worries over the crystal-glass confidence of our team. I wonder why local businessmen don't make their voices heard more? Lowe and Wilde have not just damaged the company and the football team they are dragging down the prestige and image of the entire area. If only the trust wasn't such a massive waste of space - this is the kind of moment organisations like that were invented for. Sadly ours is about as effective as Lowe.

The problem is that those extraordinary ****s, Wilde and Lowe, have succeeded in making us a truly unmanagable club unless they completely change their ethos. I honestly have to start questioning their motives. I have been willing to believe they are incompetent but not malign up until now. With their madcap spastic thrashings since they've returned you really have to wonder. If I was a shareholder I would be writing to them demanding an explanation for some of their actions. Absolutely shocking.

Spot on.

Let's send back Pekhart, he's ****. Send back Robertson too if we have to. Send back Smith and Gasmi. Don't pimp out Stern.

Careful, you'll be appearing in the letters pages of The Times before you can say "retarded-thread-media-storm-in-a-tea-cup".

Hone says it and he's an evil begger. Lowe says it and it's prudent. That's how it works. I thought the outrage over Hone's statement was absolutely laughable at the time and it appears even more so now. It has also been quite evident that Lowe and Wilde are unable to offer anything whatsoever by way of improvement other than Lowe's long awaited experiment (v3) which no doubt in his mind is still destined to bring great things. Oh, for Nigel Pearson and Leon Crouch right now.

Someone needs to make sure the club are forewarned so Staplewood security can be increased. Don't want a John Lennon moment. I suppose it's just one of them things though.

Is that further than Newcastle?

On a completely different but related in as much as its-to-do-with-physics-and-that's-what-makes-stars-work point...... Consider a scale model of an atom constructed on a football pitch: If the nucleus is a football in the middle of the centre circle, the electrons would be peas orbiting outside the edge of the pitch. It really is remarkable we don't fall through the floor considering that most of matter is nothing. Physics, astronomy and various other sciences are truly mind boggling, awe-inspiring and wonderful. It's a crying shame that our children aren't taught them properly.

No really, it isn't interesting. He's clinically bonkers in the nut about Glenn.

No, not really. You put it off until the last minute because: a) It completely shafts lots of other people; b) There is a chance (hah!) that someone could find some money somewhere in the interim. The only caveat is that if it is completely inevitable it would certainly be best to get it over with in time to ensure there is no point penalty next season. I can't believe it is that much of an inevitability though. NO ONE will benefit from it.