Junior Mullet

Why do you and others keep biting. Imagine the impact if absolutely nobody responded to this thread. Instead you have all played precisely into GM's hands and now this post looks like you are really wound up. Chill out mate and ignore this thread, eh. Support the Saints however you want to and don't let anyone tell you how you should or shouldn't support them and yes, that includes the way in which you post on here.

GM, I would be interested to hear your take on categorising posters on this site who do go to games yet appear to know hardly anything about football or the games they have just seen. IMO there are a lot of poor, misleading and curious posts on here regardless of their origin.

Agreed. What's more he has just bought a house in the best village in the South.

Good lad. I like this.

I said this on another thread a while back. The pithces at Staplewood are beautiful and of a similar quality to SMS. I think they need a boggy pitch there to play on in the build up to games like Wycombe. It sounds silly and I can't beleive I am saying this but feel this is the best option in view of some of our away performaces on cruddy pitches.

I tried but it's more sensible and controlled here - that thread is a complete mess!!! BTW have they got the record for longest thread yet? Seems that's what they're most interested in. The few good posts are hidden amongst all the trash.

Hmmm, you might be underestimating the club's current financial clout. There ain't too many clubs in the CCC with money and facilities that match ours and I think our players, except for Lallana, are not Prem quality. I personally have no doubt that the players AP wants to keep will stay next year.

The team were an absolute shambles when AP took over. His signings have been very good IMO but there are a couple of areas he still needs to get to grips with - central midfield in particular. I also think we need to turn one of the carpet like pirches at Staplewood into a ploughed field so that the players are not always training on 'carpets'. There's no doubt about it, we do need to learn to win games on ploughed fields as well as the bowling greens. Personally I give AP 7/10 so far, based on the fact that we really were bad when he took charge. I would certainly give him the whole of the summer and then until Christmas to show good league form.

That's not true. I know for a first hand fact that HMRC recently took substantially less than 100% as part of an arrangement to exit admin. They did however insist on having parity with the football creditors, which was a firming of their previous stance. This was a smallish club however and I have a sneaky feeling that HMRC may want to make an example of Poopey to prevent this sort of thing happening in future. HMRC are unlikely to be prepared to keep accepting 20p odd in the pound and might feel the need to take a stand. What's more, I suspect HMRC will be annoyed at Poopey's conduct throughout this whole debacle. HMRC might just be prepared to take nothing this time in return for making the ultimate example of them.

I have enjoyed this season for all of the reasons in the OP, and for the fact that I feel we have our club back in safe hands. It really does make a difference when the future looks bright.

A few points: 1. Pompey will need 75% of creditors by value to agree to any arrangement to exit administration. I don't know what their total creditors are worth but I wonder whether HMRC will have the 25% needed to effectively block such an arrangement?? I don't think HMRC will be happy to kkep taking pence in the pound from football clubs in admin and they might just want to make an example of the skates. If no arrangement is agreed they would probably be wound up in the absence of a buyer willing to pay all creditors in full. 2. Looks like Chanrai will pay the administrators costs rather than the club itself. I wonder how long that will last, especially when potential investors see just how unviable Pompey are. 3. The Skates have to exit admin by the second Sat of May otherwise they face the potential of not being allowed to join the CCC. In reality they are likely to be allowed membership to the CCC in return for a points deduction. It really is a greay area how the points deduction this year under PL rules will work with the FL rules re insolvency. 4. I just wonder what the Administrator will uncover in terms of the dodgy dealing it is speculated has taken place. I'm sure the forensics will have a field day going through all the off shore accounts etc. Financial irregularity could lead to massive points deductions, as per Luton. 5. I understand that Barclays will have final say over who is appointed as administrator. I think this is very important, especially in light of point 4 above. 6. Unless Chanrai is prepared to pay administrator's fees and the clubs running costs until they find a buyer I can see the administrator really hacking the club up and leaving it with nothing but the bare fish bones. 7. We are in for months of fun and games at the expense of our fishy friends.

PL Rules: http://www.premierleague.com/staticF...~146371,00.pdf FL Membership Rules:http://www.football-league.co.uk/publications/20090807/membership-of-the-football-league_2246592_634054 I don't have time to check whether the points deduction would be carried from Prem to CCC as they are from within the FL. I suspect the answer is they are not. More important perhaps, to Poopey's medium term strategy, is the second Saturday in May deadline. If Pompey were subject of an insolvency event at that time they could be refused membership to the CCC and in that event I think they would have little power but to accept an almost inevitable 10 point deduction, as we did.

That's right. It only saves them if they can find a buyer and 75% by value of the creditors agree to the buyer's proposals ie to pay 20 pence in the £.

Ickenham is pretty handy.

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Come on god!!!!!!!!!!

Nerves are jangling now

There does indeed seem to be a difference between being able to 'sell' players and then 'register' them. I suspect the question Pompey would ask of the PL would be to allow the registration of any players they sell before the start of the summer window. That would be unprecedented. Registration seems to be key, afterall which players would agree to be sold knowing that they would be sat in the stands until next season? James has already said he is making a play for the England jersey so I think we can rule him out. Surely it would be in the players' best interest to go at the end of the season or sooner on a free if the club is wound up. Smacks of serious desperation if true.

OK, I have reviewed the PL's rules and I cannot see anything to that effect. Sanctions only kick in once a club suffers a defined insolvency event ie admin or court making a winding up order. Perhaps you would let me know which of the PLs own rules you are referring to. http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/c3/3b/0,,12306~146371,00.pdf With regard to the post above about the mystery buyer, can you please give me his details because I have some magic beans and a few old cars I would liek to sell him. £15m to Chanrai and Gaydamack plus £12.1m to HMRC plus o/s wages plus all of the amounts o/s to other creditors seems an awful lot for a CCC club with very little in the way of assets or goodwill. Better off waiting for the club to be wound up or placed in admin and then buying it. That said, perhaps this is what the buyer will want to do - reach an agreement in principle with the major creditors who together would go a fair way to giving him the 75% by value majority needed to pass a proposal to come out of admin, before the club goes into admin. Hmmm, now that sounds more likely but still it sounds like a lot of money. Better options for half the price me thinks.

The transactions may be illegal from an insolvency law perpective so far as it relates to companies. There will indeed be serious legal consequneces if Pompey do go into admin or are wound up and all transactions since becoming insolvent should be looked into. However, the signings in a footballing perspective were not illegal - they were properly sanctioned by the footballing authorities and as far as I know that is all that is required to then play the player in competitive footballing competitions. If there was a footballing rule or a law of the land which made all signings illegal in the event that a club became insolvent/went into admin/were to be liquidated etc* and thus voiding the results of matches such players played in, we would have heard about it by now. What others have said, is that player contracts may be terminated in the event of a winding up or non-payment of wages after (14 I think) days. This would not make the initial signing illegal nor would it void the results of matches already played. Anyway, we have already seen from our own experiences how the footballing authorities are little more than gentlemens clubs who seem all too happy to change their rules to suit their desired outcome, so who bloody knows!!! *take your pick!

May I suggest you actually take a look at some real life ladybits.

The signings were not illegal. To be illegal and therefore potentially void the result, the FA would have not approved the player's transfer. As far as I am aware, all Poopey's signings took place once the FA's transfer embargo was lifted. So far as we can all tell, the FA did properly sanction the player's signing and therefore he had a right to play. I do not beleive FA rules have any hidden rule that we don't all know about. Some people seem to be confused about insolvency laws that apply to all companies, not just football clubs. There can be little doubt that Poopey are insolvent because they are unable to pay their debts as they fall due and I exepct they also fail a secondary test for insolvency by having a negative balance sheet. So where does that leave them? From a financial perspective, it leaves them in deep sh!t but it will not affect the outcome of the game or any results, which are goverend by FA/PL/whatever footballing rules. The directors at Pompey could be personally liable to repay money to club if an insolvency practiitoner appointed to take care of affairs at the club can show that the company traded whilst insolvent without a reasonable prospect of trading out. This is known as fraudulent trading or wrongful trading for those that care, based on the level of knowledge and behaviour of the directors. It is therefore no surprise that some directors have quit recently. The ones remainign must be cacking themselves. I susepct they have something to hide, or why else go down the most risky path? So, please stop bast@rdising football and insolvency laws. The signings were not illegal and the result will stand. Brum would get a bye if Pompey snuff it before the tie is due to be played.

Is he Lloyd James' dad?

The scenes on Saturday and some of the posts on here are embarassing. I can't imagine anyone is proud of the video on Youtube - our fans looked stupid. Saying their fans look like downs sufferers etc. is also pretty sad and pretty blinkered. Personally I've always thought SMS is full of weird looking people but it doesnt bother me. I would have more respect for people like SRS if they just arranged to meet a few of the Pompey boys and have a proper fight. I have no problem with that - consenting adults enjoying themselves without harming innocent people or their property. Web insults and a few insults behind police lines/railings is pretty weak though. Soft. Go on Stu - I'm sure you could find a few willing Pompey fans on-line, you could have a proper fight within an hour I reckon. BTW I am all for banter, insult and intimidation within the ground where it can actually impact on the football to our advantage.

Am I missing something? I thought we would not know until 1st March or perhaps even later if they manage to keep wriggling.