Junior Mullet

PL Rules: http://www.premierleague.com/staticF...~146371,00.pdf FL Membership Rules:http://www.football-league.co.uk/publications/20090807/membership-of-the-football-league_2246592_634054 I don't have time to check whether the points deduction would be carried from Prem to CCC as they are from within the FL. I suspect the answer is they are not. More important perhaps, to Poopey's medium term strategy, is the second Saturday in May deadline. If Pompey were subject of an insolvency event at that time they could be refused membership to the CCC and in that event I think they would have little power but to accept an almost inevitable 10 point deduction, as we did.

That's right. It only saves them if they can find a buyer and 75% by value of the creditors agree to the buyer's proposals ie to pay 20 pence in the £.

Ickenham is pretty handy.

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Come on god!!!!!!!!!!

Nerves are jangling now

There does indeed seem to be a difference between being able to 'sell' players and then 'register' them. I suspect the question Pompey would ask of the PL would be to allow the registration of any players they sell before the start of the summer window. That would be unprecedented. Registration seems to be key, afterall which players would agree to be sold knowing that they would be sat in the stands until next season? James has already said he is making a play for the England jersey so I think we can rule him out. Surely it would be in the players' best interest to go at the end of the season or sooner on a free if the club is wound up. Smacks of serious desperation if true.

OK, I have reviewed the PL's rules and I cannot see anything to that effect. Sanctions only kick in once a club suffers a defined insolvency event ie admin or court making a winding up order. Perhaps you would let me know which of the PLs own rules you are referring to. http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/c3/3b/0,,12306~146371,00.pdf With regard to the post above about the mystery buyer, can you please give me his details because I have some magic beans and a few old cars I would liek to sell him. £15m to Chanrai and Gaydamack plus £12.1m to HMRC plus o/s wages plus all of the amounts o/s to other creditors seems an awful lot for a CCC club with very little in the way of assets or goodwill. Better off waiting for the club to be wound up or placed in admin and then buying it. That said, perhaps this is what the buyer will want to do - reach an agreement in principle with the major creditors who together would go a fair way to giving him the 75% by value majority needed to pass a proposal to come out of admin, before the club goes into admin. Hmmm, now that sounds more likely but still it sounds like a lot of money. Better options for half the price me thinks.

The transactions may be illegal from an insolvency law perpective so far as it relates to companies. There will indeed be serious legal consequneces if Pompey do go into admin or are wound up and all transactions since becoming insolvent should be looked into. However, the signings in a footballing perspective were not illegal - they were properly sanctioned by the footballing authorities and as far as I know that is all that is required to then play the player in competitive footballing competitions. If there was a footballing rule or a law of the land which made all signings illegal in the event that a club became insolvent/went into admin/were to be liquidated etc* and thus voiding the results of matches such players played in, we would have heard about it by now. What others have said, is that player contracts may be terminated in the event of a winding up or non-payment of wages after (14 I think) days. This would not make the initial signing illegal nor would it void the results of matches already played. Anyway, we have already seen from our own experiences how the footballing authorities are little more than gentlemens clubs who seem all too happy to change their rules to suit their desired outcome, so who bloody knows!!! *take your pick!

May I suggest you actually take a look at some real life ladybits.

The signings were not illegal. To be illegal and therefore potentially void the result, the FA would have not approved the player's transfer. As far as I am aware, all Poopey's signings took place once the FA's transfer embargo was lifted. So far as we can all tell, the FA did properly sanction the player's signing and therefore he had a right to play. I do not beleive FA rules have any hidden rule that we don't all know about. Some people seem to be confused about insolvency laws that apply to all companies, not just football clubs. There can be little doubt that Poopey are insolvent because they are unable to pay their debts as they fall due and I exepct they also fail a secondary test for insolvency by having a negative balance sheet. So where does that leave them? From a financial perspective, it leaves them in deep sh!t but it will not affect the outcome of the game or any results, which are goverend by FA/PL/whatever footballing rules. The directors at Pompey could be personally liable to repay money to club if an insolvency practiitoner appointed to take care of affairs at the club can show that the company traded whilst insolvent without a reasonable prospect of trading out. This is known as fraudulent trading or wrongful trading for those that care, based on the level of knowledge and behaviour of the directors. It is therefore no surprise that some directors have quit recently. The ones remainign must be cacking themselves. I susepct they have something to hide, or why else go down the most risky path? So, please stop bast@rdising football and insolvency laws. The signings were not illegal and the result will stand. Brum would get a bye if Pompey snuff it before the tie is due to be played.

Is he Lloyd James' dad?

The scenes on Saturday and some of the posts on here are embarassing. I can't imagine anyone is proud of the video on Youtube - our fans looked stupid. Saying their fans look like downs sufferers etc. is also pretty sad and pretty blinkered. Personally I've always thought SMS is full of weird looking people but it doesnt bother me. I would have more respect for people like SRS if they just arranged to meet a few of the Pompey boys and have a proper fight. I have no problem with that - consenting adults enjoying themselves without harming innocent people or their property. Web insults and a few insults behind police lines/railings is pretty weak though. Soft. Go on Stu - I'm sure you could find a few willing Pompey fans on-line, you could have a proper fight within an hour I reckon. BTW I am all for banter, insult and intimidation within the ground where it can actually impact on the football to our advantage.

Am I missing something? I thought we would not know until 1st March or perhaps even later if they manage to keep wriggling.

This is why I too think it could be less than light years away. Five year plan - how long do you think it will take to develop the ground? Perhaps the best part of 5 years?

Yup, pretty much said he wanted to Poopey to go down which didnt impress the Poopey sumariser.

My thoughts exactly. We are currently a year away from parity IMO. We actually gave them much more of a game today that I thought we would. If only we would have taken our chances.....but that's currently the difference isnt it.

Fu@king idiots. It will take the death of someone very close to some people before they think twice about getting involved in something so trivial.

Either team doesnt fill me with confidence against a team fitter, stronger, technically better and quicker than any other we have played this year. We have suffered each time opponents go up a gear against us - Norwich being a prime example and Brighton another. If Pompey play with vigour we could be embarassed.

I should be sitting closeish to him. Am going to take a pair of red and white frilly knickers to wave at him.

...I work in Southsea. I came across to this office in May 2008 just before the Cup Final. Since then I have had all sorts of sh!t from the fickle few. The balance is now returning to normal and a win will prove that once and for all.

surprised there are no saints fan hijacking that link!

Yup, Thomas was lucky. Could easily have received a red for the viscious late challenge that lead to his yellow card. Really pushed the ref to the limit with what followed. In the Premiership he would have seen the game out IMO. All that aside, he was the one trying to gee up the rest of the back four and the midfield when we were not competing so well second half.

I would happily agree with them and see them forego the 9 point deduction (frankly it will not change anything anyway) provided they handed back the FA Cup they won, everything they gained from the Eurpean excursion the following season etc. Pompey gained from living beyond their means at the detriment of other clubs who were more prudent. They therefore should be punished. That said, my views on the parent company goiong into admin with the club company not being in admin remain as they were for Saints - ie. they should not be punished unless the rules clearly state otherwise. I wonder what their exceptional circumstances are. Perhaps something to do with the Disability Discrimination Act on the grounds that they are all inbred mongs.

"Portsmouth have sold Begovic, to Stoke, and Younes Kaboul, to Tottenham for £5m, as part of the battle to stabilise their finances. Club sources confirmed that the deals were negotiated by Daniel Azougy, an Israeli former lawyer and convicted fraudster who is working on the finances at Fratton Park." I just love reading this. It's Pompey through and through.