Saint Pete
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This would be a bit of a strange signing as think we already have plenty of options in the 2 wide positions. I would personally rather see us adding another target man striking option to add better cover for Pelle than another wide player who is presumably going to be well down the pecking order.
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Clasie sounds like a good signing, but still a little concerned by a lack of height/physical strength across the midfielders in our squad. When Wanyama is out/rested, there could be a problem. Clasie, Reed, JWP, Davis - all of a similar build. Could make us more vulnerable to the Stokes and West Hams of the Prem, who will target us at set pieces and try to bully us in midfield. Are we likely to sign another taller midfielder as well as Clasie (and a centre back to replace Toby)?
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Schneiderlin Joins Manchester United (Official)
Saint Pete replied to Bewildered's topic in The Saints
Shooting was certainly not Morgan's strongest point, but I would suggest that he has many other facets that are more important when selecting a holding midfielder. That is why Van Gaal and United have chosen to part with £25m for him, nothing to do with his shooting ability - they have a fair number of other players who should be scoring the goals. Don't agree with your point about wild tackles either - yes, he picked up a few suspensions, but you will find very few players who play in his position in the modern game who don't pick up yellow cards, as you only need to breathe on a player to get one now. But you carry on slagging off one of our best midfielders in recent decades if it makes you feel better - it's SWF tradition when a good player leaves after all -
I understand that players have to look after themselves in these matters, but can't help feeling disappointed in Toby's actions in this. Unless Les and Ron have been downright lying, it does appear that he gave us a pretty strong indication that he wanted to sign for us up until pretty close to the deal being signed with Spurs, when in reality he and his agent must have been negotiating with Spurs for some time. It does also seem a bit messy from Saints point of view though - for whatever reason, the communications with Atletico seem to have broken down and we've ended up trying to salvage something at the last minute (or so it seems), which makes it look like we were blindsided in some way. You would have expected us to be in close contact/negotiation with Atletico since the end of the season to establish whether the various clauses in the loan deal were being exercised or not? I hope we will hear some kind of response/explanation from the club about what happened from our point of view.
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The most disappointing thing about this (if true) is that he's signing for Spurs of all clubs, possibly our biggest rival in our mini league in the table at present. If I'm honest, I never really thought we would be able to pull off signing Toby permanently in spite of the option to buy clause, because he played so impressively last season that he was always going to attract offers from clubs who can offer him (and Atletico) more than us. Just gutting that he's chosen Spurs.
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Wow! - could that article be any more misinformed?
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Schneiderlin Joins Manchester United (Official)
Saint Pete replied to Bewildered's topic in The Saints
Would you rather he had given interviews saying he would be happy to stay at Saints for the rest of his career, when that clearly wasn't the case? He was simply being honest by saying he wanted to move up to a Champions League club, which is what he is now doing. I think it's perfectly understandable he wants to play at the next level after 7 years at the club. -
Pelle will need to be rested for a lot more than half a dozen games this year if we are to challenge in Europe as well as put in a decent league campaign.
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Can see what you're saying and you may be right. But the noises coming from the club are that they want to progress to being a club regularly qualifying for and playing in Europe. Can't see how that is a realistic aim unless we can achieve better strength in depth, as Pelle will never last the season if he's played in more or less every game domestically and in Europe. I personally don't think Pelle (or Austin) would have a massive problem with not playing all the time as long as they are getting a decent amount of games at a successful club, but agree with you that wage structure would likely be the main issue.
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I think if we are involved in a European campaign this year, we will need better options up front so that Pelle can be given a rest more often - I think this was part of his problem in the 2nd half of the season anyway, he should have been rested more. So, I would like to see us have both to allow more rotation. (If we need to let someone go to afford Austin, I would rather it was Long than Pelle).
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Hodgson got it badly wrong by selecting Jones at right back instead of Clyne - definitely demonstrates his apparent bias towards the big teams. However, don't think you can criticise the half-time change to bring on Lallana for Jones and slot Henderson to RB? This was clearly a tactical change, which resulted in a more fluid midfield in the 2nd half. There would have been little point in bringing Clyne on at that stage and not using a more attacking sub.
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Although it's great that Rodriguez is on the mend, it would be foolish to expect too much from him straight away, so I still think Koeman may want more firepower and another option for the central target man striker. I would still say an injury to Pelle for any length of time would leave us looking a little lightweight in attack, and Koeman has been reluctant to use Long or Mane as a central striker up top in place of Pelle. It's possible we may still sign Austin but look to recoup some money by selling Long?
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Come on Theo, WIFS!
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I wonder if there's any time limit set on Atletico to decide if they are going to pay us to cancel our option to buy Toby?
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I agree, Sissoko would be great for us. Great goal against West Ham, the kind of goal we just don't have anyone (midfield-wise) who could score at the moment. There may be competition from CL clubs though if he is available.
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Hmmm, would certainly sweeten the pill of losing Morgan, and keep him out of the clutches of our opponents to boot Not sure if Morgan will go for it though, who knows?
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Yes, but wouldn't necessarily rule him out on that basis alone. Not sure if Fer is the right man or not TBH, but was just making the point that perhaps we need a midfielder with a bit more physical stature than Clasie when you look at the other midfielders in our squad (assuming we will lose at least 1 of Morgan/Vic).
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Nice one big Vic
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This is what worries me a little about us potentially signing Clasie as a replacement for Morgan and/or Wanyama. I'm sure he's a good player but we already have a number of short midfielders in the squad with Davis, JWP and Reed, so we could be leaving our midfield a bit vulnerable to more powerful opposition. Perhaps we should be targetting a midfielder with more stature like say Leroy Fer of QPR to give us a bit more balance in the squad?
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Nathaniel Clyne Joins Liverpool - Official
Saint Pete replied to Saint Garrett's topic in The Saints
Personally, I don't think the Europa League thing really has much impact on the Clyne situation - it's more about whether Man Utd are serious about making an offer for him or not. -
They're being linked with Arturo Vidal from Juve a lot at the moment - not really a holding midfielder in the same mould as Morgan, but if they spend big on him, can't really see them offering a big fee for Morgan as well.
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Don't think anyone can really argue with anything Morgan is saying here. If a Champions League team comes in with the right offer for the club, he'll go. If they don't he may well stay.
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Think we would be wise not to expect too much from Jay Rod straight away! I would hope we will sign another central striker to provide more options.
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Totally agree about Djuricic - I also find it odd that some see so much potential in him when there's nothing in his record in other leagues to really justify it (unlike say Mane who despite being out of form earlier in the season always looked like he had the potential and previous record to come good in the end). Hope we move on to other options in the summer.
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Overall a terrific season for us and a great start by Koeman, after joining the club at an exceptionally difficult time. Defensively, we have been the best I can remember in my 30 odd years of supporting Saints, and really hope we can keep our back 4 together next season. I do feel some frustration that we faded in the run-in despite what seemed like a reasonable run of fixtures, and feel like we would have achieved 5th if our attacking play had been just slightly better in the last couple of months. But I think this has been a reflection of the lack of depth in our squad, which has meant we haven't had good enough options to rotate players who are tired or out of form. The strength of the squad in terms of attacking players who can weigh in with goals is the main area we need to address in the summer, particularly if we are in Europe.
