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I think there's a compelling argument in this for keeping infractions private. Sadly, the problem is a wider one of perceived fairness. When Deppo was briefly banned, dune sailed on regardless - and yet EVERYONE knows he's been banned before and has been allowed for no obvious reason to breach rules which apply to others. It was the same thing with Nineteen Canteen et al. He even boasted to several of us by PM that he had re-emerged in about five different guises - all known to Admin. If there were a clear argument that justifies this, the clamour for making infractions public would probably go away.

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/charlie-sheen-fired-from-two-and-a-half-men/?emc=na

And now he's been fired. The future of the show will be decided by Warners 'at a later date'. Hmm.

Unfortunately, the simple fact is it was your post rather than Deppo's that took this thread off topic. There is a serious argument to be made for making infractions public, but why do it here?

All in the eye of the beholder, of course, but I can think of at least a dozen things better on TV right now. Most of it American.

Aren't you the same trousers who complains all the time about punch n judy politics? Please explain how Cameron's pathetic and embarrassing in the Middle East disqualifies him from the bellend award. Or how the nomination of his Old Etonian and moated chum for a peerage represents a new non-bellend politics.

It seems the latest chapter in Cameron's misadventure in the Middle East is set to confirm bellend status of historic proportions. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/06/sas-diplomatic-mission-in-libya "They were carrying espionage equipment, reconnaissance equipment, multiple passports and weapons. This is no way to conduct yourself during an uprising."

dune? Or benjiiiii?

Alone presumably.

You have no idea. I am about to explode.

So that's you out, Johnny Bog out. Dune is terminally incoherent. I'm running out of foaming-at-the-mouths. Who else? There's always that Sergei chap. He always tries, poor thing, to defend the indefensible. Maybe he'll have a go.

So benjilegend, what's your defence of Cameron's failed attempt to award his Old Etonian, moat-non-paying chum Quintin Hogg a peerage? What's your defence of Cameron's brilliant attempt to sell arms to despots in the midst of the upheaval in the Middle East, then suddenly to see the light with a no-fly zone, only to be thwacked by Clinton? Johnny B couldn't come up with an answer. Maybe you can. Here's hoping.

So we're agreed. Cameron is indeed a bellend. This thread has been illuminating.

Im certainly no fan of Brown. Odd that you should think (or imply) so. But let's not change the subject. Cameron's performance in the Middle East was truly bellended though - surely you'd agree. And you're surely not about to offer a defence for Bellend's attempt (again, withdrawn after a good kicking from his colleagues) to promote plebs-can-pay-for-my-moat Hogg to a peerage? Or are you?

When the condom fits... Actually his performance in the Middle East recently is surely the walking, talking definition of a bellend. First he turns up in the middle of a region-wide revolution to try to flog arms to all the nice corrupt regimes, then comes home and storms into the Commons to tell the world that Britain is about to impose a no-fly zone, and finally, after a sharp slap-down by the Americans, returns to the Commons with his tail between his legs. Bellend indeed.

Double agreed. Comedy wouldn't be funny without an element of truth. In any case, Cameron goes on providing such good material. Who other than a bellended toff would propose his Old Etonian chum Quintin Hogg for a peerage? For services to state-funded moats, presumably.

Just need to add the obvious Cameron/bellend equation and he's got a routine.

On a site where members pay, I'm surprised there's any debate about infractions being made public. Transparency should be a given.

Your organs will be eating other about now. Put your donor card away because your liver will have had your kidneys for breakfast.

Is he dead yet?

I think you haven't quite mastered SK's little joke. But don't bother. No one wants to see you suffer the agony of thinking.

Yes, you're quite right, dune, I wouldn't know anything about ITV. Carry on.

Dashed hopes of another kind?

I'd strongly advise you, dune, to keep your 'shares' in ITV (I have a sneaking suspicion you're playing with Monopoly money). Today's profits announcement was good; the prognosis is not. But ITV1's share of viewing dropped in 2010 despite the autumn boost and ITV gave a cautious outlook for the year ahead as it fears the impact of tough comparatives and an uncertain wider economy. (The Guardian) As I told you earlier, part of my pension is in ITV, and so I depend on the company scooping up every financial ingenue it can to invest. So keep it up! And thanks! (if you actually parted with any money).

That is so cool. Thanks.