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Cortese was pretty nice when I met him at the Sochaux game, quick chat smiles a hand shake before we went off for more veil sausage. I like the club taking a sensible approach towards ex-players and staff who aren't pulling in the right direction, perfectly reasonable to see that some of the downfall of the club is from just not running the place properly for years. Though that probably will upset some people it has to be done for the club to go anywhere. Shame the daily mail have to concentrate so much on the negatives and the concrete facts they have of MLT then push in a lot of conjecture around it to pass it off as fact.

A whole lot of urm NO. A) Shaw isn't ready, at all. Putting him in how is asking for trouble B) Bring back Jos?! Do we like playing 10 men vs 12??? Not to mention Yoshida has been pretty good overall, he's learning how to push forwards into places where it is safe to tackle instead of doing a Jos and letting them into the box and putting them down. C) Can only hope Adkins either picks Boruc and leaves him in or keeps Gazza in for consistency sake.

Lol poor effort, sack off Fonte and bring back Wayne Thomas and partner him with Chris Perry, real men of cb's there! Should get Jon Otsemobor back in at RB to take the pressure off Fox and play Clyne at lb...

Haha! At least there is a fair and rational answer to it all.

In my view I don't you watched the same West Brom game everyone else did or any of the other games from this season... WBA away was one of the few games we strung together 90 competent minutes of football, no stupid errors, no getting a free chance and hoofing it into our own goal, no getting sent off for nothing, no massive own goals, no getting overawed by the occasion. It goes on like that. WBA just showed our back 4 need a little more confidence to press the ball and make a well timed tackle, they have been making very rash ones this season and have needed to take a step back and sort that out, but haven't applied what they have learnt fully, but it is getting there. All we need to do is get a burst of confidence, a few goals, Davis and Schniderlin to push up a little more and play forward and it will work out. Wetting the bed and having some sort of mini melt down as a club isn't really going to help, especially when 3 of the next 4 fixtures are very winnable and Newcastle are beatable too.

Not really, that goal was the ultimate example of how to be properly hit on the break, one of the few times blame can only really be handed out to the team not scoring from the chance we created before they hoofed and scored. Not often we concede a goal that is just a good bit of play but that was one of them. Seems a bit harsh to try and destroy one of Fox's better performances in the prem...

Yeah Shaw isn't ready, his 10 mins against WBA showed he's got a good tackle but no confidence to take up a position (seemed to be holding Yoshida's hand for most of those 10 mins). Fox may well be poor positionally but we will loose and destroy Shaw sticking him in. We need to play the same team for a couple of games and not chop about with the line up for once, little bit of consistency would do our confidence wonders!

Agreed, apart from the bit about being in the Chapel, instead will be in the Itchen north as usual.

It would be nice if Spurs fans stopped shouting Yid. Self insulting is just silly and its not clever bring an Israel flag to an away day at football. And they wonder why most fans come out with jewish stereotypes when they shout that sort of thing (and then play the video of the 2 fans fighting over friedels shirt by offering money to each other).

No. For a start we are starting to get a grip on the errors with the West Brom game and Cork will be much needed in the midfield, where he's good.

Yep played against city, doubt we'll beat spurs or one of the top teams to his signature though (agent was in the paper last week drumming up interest from the prem and best part of 3/4's including us apparently are interested)

Interesting article though it seems to present the view that most teams fate is nothing to do with changing the manager or leaving them in (looking at how Wolves and Blackburn did last year). The odd one is Sunderland as they really haven't improved with O'Neill, just stabilised to 17th, not conceding or scoring. Either way the article is still a few weeks early, everything comes down to the results against the teams around us (for all 3 managers).

I see many things wrong with that tweet, mainly there isn't really a story...

Dean can pass exactly 8 yards slightly behind him, think Davis is bad in the prem? Dean will cause us so many problems it'll be cringe worthy. We are bottom because we have no confidence in the back 4, nothing to do with the midfield that can be fixed with Dean coming back.

Good, needs games and he'll never get them here. Doubt he'll stay long though in the champ as he was pretty average against Stevenage...

In the champ he wasn't first name on the team sheet so I hardly see it a fall from grace. He has a good tackle but sod all else in his game. Another one of those L1/average champ players we have kicking about the club. Go down for next year we can have him back and he'll be ok rotation. Stay up and he'll be gone because he cannot pass to save his life.

Ah was at the game and thought he was a very poor keeper. Yeah he got away with it just, he was miles away from Lamberts chance in the second half and we didn't punish them for the possession. Different day and that could have been WBA's undoing.

Sensible formation would be ---------------Gazza-------------- Clyne ---- Fonte ---- Maya ---- Fox ----------- Schniderlin ----------- -------- Cork ----- Davis----------- -Gaston ----------------- Lallana -- ----------- Lambert --------- Stick Davis, Shaw, Hooiveld, JWP, Mayuka, Guly and Rodriguez on the bench and just hope we score more than they do as they will always beat us on the break with 3/4 people bombing it forward.

Well that's even more confusing for Foster, why did he even try and kick it when he knew it wasn't going to work. Why didn't they get someone to drop back and help him instead of hoofing possession to us. Even why did they play a keeper who is injured? Strange decision there.

Gazza was good enough, needs a bit more time to learn where he wants to be and where he wants the back 4 to be. Main thing is we need to stick with one for a bit because the back 4 are really unsure of where the keeper needs them to be and I stand by Gazza should be the one we work on to get this sorted. Boruc annoys me because he is fat and erratic, half the game he is shouting at everyone to be somewhere then when it matters he's not doing it. Just needs to be angry and shouty for 90 mins or not at all, not for some of the time and then causing calamity. Davis I still think is poor, good stopper but that counts for nothing in the prem and his history in goal is well known from Sunderland. Polite way is to forget about that. As a positive thought watching Ben Foster last night really opened my eyes to what an average keeper he is! Thought we had missed out on something special there for £3m but his kicking was shocking and he looked at sea when we pressed him. He looked like a calamity waiting to happen against us which really surprised me.

Urm no. When has he displayed as single "captain attribute"?!?! Is the captain supposed to be charging round the pitch hopelessly following the game? Is he supposed to be making bad tackles that with better ref look like reds for intent to stamp someone? The list goes on, Chaplow is a L1 player, everyone knows it, especially Chaplow. He will never be captain because he won't do anything sensible. Got to question this, how is Clyne ever going to get the experience if we don't play him??

Are we all taking about Mulumbu? The bloke that we gave all the time in the world to and he didn't do a lot other than tackle everyone in sight? The type of player who if you play properly and keep the ball from with a few decent touches and a bit of passing will just get sent off from not being quite good enough to win it fairly. Madness to want him over Gaston. Shouldn't have spent £6m on Rodriguez, maybe £2m then give them more based on performance. Gaston has had 3 starts and one sub appearance, clearly worth the money from what we have seen and things can only get better from him.

We looked pretty good, we didn't make a single "calamity moment" and we made some decent chances. Doom and gloom after the first half of spurs or after West Ham is fine, but after last night it isn't. Other than just lacking confidence (and playing Rodriguez) we don't actually look a bad premier league side.

It was a really good show from us from start to finish, the Guly boo's were silly but sounded a lot like the Guly song so it sort of got drowned out by its self which was funny (simpsons boo-urns moment). Plenty of good songs, including a decent attempt at getting when the saints go marching in at the right pace plus the Adkins songs were great as after about 5 it got the point across that we want him to stay, really liked he came over towards us at the end of the game in acknowledgement of the effort. The food sellers around St Marys need to learn a thing or two from West Brom's lot too, some of the nicest food was to be found on the way to the ground! 1/2 pound steak burgers for £3, fresh chips for £2 (with BBQ sauce) and a large amount of sweets, hog roast and other assorted options made the guys around St Marys look like total ripoffs. There probably was more but was too hungry from the drive up. Traffic was horrific getting off the M5 into West Brom, took us about an hour to cover the last 2 miles when it was only a little more than an hour from MK to that bit. Should really update the ground guide with big warning letters to just get the train as driving around there was just frustrating. Thankfully someone let us out across the highstreet to get home otherwise we could have been stuck there for even longer.

The 4-2-3-1 only works when Davis and Schneiderlin don't sit so deep and move forward to assist the front 4, as they did against Villa. What we have seen since Everton is that they have sat deeper and deeper to "protect" the back 4, which in reality has taken the back 4's confidence and taken the 2 midfielders out of the game completely. I think the only way out is to do the 4-3-3 we started against City and United with (especially with Gaston not 100%). Give Morg his anchorman sort of role and Cork/JWP and Davis to run the midfield in front of him. Then give Lallana, Lambert and Myuka/Gaston full run of the front 3. Should give us a different outlet of all the possession we have had this season, especially as Gaston isn't fit enough to drop back yet and link up with the midfield 2 in 4-2-3-1.