Lighthouse

If your son ever asks why he should do his homework and stay in school, show him those photos. If your daughter asks the same question, show her the same photos.

Well, at least we agree on something.

I’ve already said I agree with that bit. The shirt pull is a foul and it should have been a free kick to us but it comes back to the old cliche of playing to the whistle. Shirts get pulled at every set piece and players know it goes unpunished 90% of the time. Until we get VAR we just have to accept that.

I could buy that if he actually looked like he was flinging his arms up to gain momentum but he wasn’t, he just had his arm up like some crap Freddy Mercury impression. I guess everyone sees things differently, I’ll stick with what I (and England’s 2 greatest ever strikers) saw.

Perhaps you could go and patronise Jenas, Linekar and Shearer who've obviously never played either. I however am familiar with the concept of jumping, it doesn't involve waving your arm above your head, even if your shirt is being pulled back. There was no downward movement at all, as there is in figure E of Shurlock's diagram.

Fair enough, first time I've seen him linked (although that is the Irish Mirror). I thought that story came about from Ranieri saying they looked at getting Clasie in instead.

Yes it was, for Leicester. At no point were we rumoured to be in for Kante.

I have absolutely no idea what was going through his head. Just like when he went he went in for that lunge on Townsend in midweek, on the halfway line when there was absolutely no danger. Or a whole bunch of other moments where he just seemed to switch off completely. Ander Herrera's goal for Utd being one. I first noticed it for Zlatan's winner in the EFL and he hasn't really cut it out his game.

Except Stephens had his arm straight up in the air the whole time. It's just been on again on the MotD replay, his arm is directly above his head the whole time. If we didn't get that at St Marys this whole board would be fuming. Absolutely agree... if the ref sees it. You can't go committing fouls in your own penalty box with 30 seconds of injury time left, on the assumption that the ref will see a shirt pull, which is hardly ever given. The ref wouldn't have seen the pull anyway from the angle he is at.

I genuinely can't tell if this is a wind up. You're both absolutely fine with the idea that defenders should jump for a cross with their arm above their head, on the basis if he wasn't fouled his arm would have been ABOVE the ball and therefore wouldn't have hit? If that's the case then Cardiff should just stick in a bunch of crosses which are 6 inches too high. Then they will go over everyone's head but one of our defenders will punch the ball. I can see the argument that a shirt pull is a foul but for the life of me I can't even begin to comprehend what JS may have been thinking. Until VAR gets brought in, shirt pulling will remain. It's too widespread and refs know that if they see one they will miss about 30 in every game and get slated for being biased and inconsistent; so it's safer just to bottle all of them.

Watching MOTD, both stonewall penalties. Not sure how Stephens’ arm being vertically up in the air is the result of a shirt pull. Need VAR ASAP.

I want to watch good football, played the right way, like we had up until summer 2016. I don’t care if we’re 10th, 8th, 6th or whatever, I just want to be entertained. I like seeing young players develop but only if they’re good enough. As for Stephens, I’m not quick to turn on him. In fact I have consistently thought he wasn’t a Premier League player since he played under Puel. I’ve no idea how he gets off so much lighter than Hoedt if I’m honest.

Fulham are irrelevant, they are hopeless defensively and won’t be making up 7 points on the rest of the pack. They concede 2 in every game and are nothing special going forward.

Stephens isn't a scapegoat but he is a f**king idiot. Every game he seems to do something ridiculous and drop us in it.

Well, obviously.

Fair enough. Feels like hours.

Why do people say this, it’s going to be at least 8.

Must have been a screaming, great left footer.

He’s been fit for nearly 2 games already, he is due another injury.

Would probably take it personally.

Here please. Yellows!

Interesting team. Good to see Armstrong starting, guessing that’s JWP at RWB.

Palace are level on points with us, I don’t see them as being any safer than we are. The difference is that they are pretty much a 1 man team and if Zaha doesn’t turn up they don’t win. If we hadn’t made about 4 silly mistakes in a row, they wouldn’t have scored against us on Wednesday. They’re the kind of team that can easily lose 6 on the bounce.

A draw for Fulham against Palace would be handy.

More wilful misunderstanding here; it was your fictional account of Swansea winning 5 games before the end of transfer window (they won 3), assuming they were safe (they were 19th) signing nobody (they spent a fair bit on Ayew) loaning out a bunch of players (they were mainly kids who weren’t getting in the team) and complacently sliding into the drop zone (they were in it already) which we can all live without.