Saint86

Labour activists/supporters absolutely commit electoral fraud in GE's and referendums tbf. Zero doubt over that. Just have to look at open bragging from students and the reports from the last GE/Ref and what happened in the Peterborough by-election. Our whole system needs reforming as it is far to easy to abuse the system currently.

Thats all it is. We play again soon against Arsenal. Business as usual i suspect.

That should have been obvious to saints fans since the fixtures were released. Quite a few of us even called the current scenario pre-season. It won't change supporter emotions or gut reactions. It is good to see it broken down and quantified like that, cheers for sharing!

Good. If we're going down then we need to start over.

If they don't, Les Reed and co need shooting. It should be standard practice for most clubs in the premier league. Only about 7-8 could consider themselves safe indefinitely.

I think we'll get out of it. Djenepo is fit, and he is a true RH kind of player. With him, Redmond, and Ings, we'll have enough about us. The Leicester result was shocking - and may actually do us some good perversely - but i think a lot of us looked our fixtures and thought we'd be in a relegation scrap by mid November. But I think we'll get out of it and finish somewhere between 10th and 15th.

So hang on, he hasn't actually been sacked? Slightly misleading thread title surely!

We have to support Ralph and the team. He is ultimately a good tactical manager and man manager, but he isn't a coach. Rohl was his linchpin, and he hasn't been replaced. The club fundamentally need to address that. He is also hamstrung slightly by the squad he has available. Its bloated and has a lot of dead weight, and that in turn has prevented us adding sufficient quality in key areas. Add to that the fact that Djenepo (who is easily one of our best attacking players) is out injured, and is it any wonder we are struggling? We can't defend, if we attack we leak like a sieve, and we aren't sharp enough currently to offset that. At the very least, we should get in a defensive and attacking coaches to help with these aspects. The people at the very top of the club need to put up or get gone. But that isn't likely to happen any time soon. And as others have said, sack Ralph and we'll get in another manager who is tactically worse (but may be able to coach better) - a bit pointless when we could just hire a replacement coach and save millions!

Tonight doesn't matter. We have no interest in this game, only the league. Players are being rested and its about damage limitation. We are currently a laughing stock of a club lets not forget.

Wasn't that goal offside?

Exactly.

What did he say? Fishing for a job?

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Record premier league win very much on the cards tonight, and it will be for an away side. If it happens, the shame will never be washed clean. I decided at the end of the Claud Puel season that I wasn't going to pay another penny into the club under its current management and business strategy. To do so was to let people get rich on the back of ruining our club. We had a fantastic team and almost made champions league football. They turned it into this. If it takes another 10 years of struggling, relegation and administration to hit rock bottom and rebuild... well then I'll welcome it. Because nothing changes the way things are. Even if we sack the manager, get a bounce, stay up... we'll be in the exact same spiral we're in now. This board and club management are entirely unfit for duty.

I don't think people have realised that we're watching the record premier league win tonight. By an away side.

How can they give a red card and the goal. Should be a fecking free kick in that case. BS.

Its clearly a different deal to TM's one because it removes the backstop. However. I've heard that it includes a lot of level playing field clauses which mean the UK can't negotiate better trade deals that the UK has, and we can't reclaim fishing waters etc. In which point, its garbage and true dead duck to hang round our necks. Fact is though, trying to find the truth of it is impossible. The tories will paint it as the best thing since sliced bread, labour will vote against the tories regardless, the lib dems just want the whole thing revoked, the brexit party hate anything that isn't no deal, and the SNP will flat out throw their toys out of the pram until they've (and only them) have broken up the union. Trying to find the truth of it from all the conflicting agendas and arguments is impossible.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7570817/Britains-worst-paedophile-stabbed-death-makeshift-blade.html

And this is exactly why i say, if relegation is inevitable, then I welcome the fastest possible route to the bottom so we can start again. Ship any that don't want to be here out, and start again with kids and those that care. We are stale stagnant club in decline as it stands. Needs to change, or we can all may as well just skip the next 5-10 years whilst we sink.

Absolutely. We are a club in serious decline. Dark days ahead without a very significant change.

Well. You say that, but I think thats what we need now. There is no way out of this downwards spiral (be it rapid or slow). We went down before and started again, we were on course to be an established top half side and unfortunately Les Reed and his ego stole that possibility from us. Now we have no winning mentality, a bang average youth set up, a below average bloated squad of players. I am growing to absolutely despise what we have become in recent seasons. If relegation is inevitable, I would welcome the fastest possible route to the bottom myself. Then start again and this time hope we don't get any parasites like Reed climbing aboard.

Think we need to make massive changes behind the scenes. And the manager has to go if this continues.

Shocking at the back again. Gunn has to be dropped - him and our defence lost us that game - scratch that - gave tottenham that game... all in the first half. Manager has to start taking serious blame for this continuously happening. Ref an utter bender second half. Shocking bias on display. Someone very clearly had a word with him at halftime.

Another 3 potential 3 points dropped.

Easy. Not even a contest. Loving Matty Taylor praising us at the end as well. MUSIC to my ears!!