Saint86

I think it is clear that there are posters on here with vested interests who know the people involved. Ultimately who cares, they got banned and maybe harsh or justified... I didn't see the facts to judge. As for the comments regarding clubs involved... you can see in some of the videos that there are guys in yellow and black shirts carrying batons attacking fans in red and white shirts before promptly running off when the cops intervene.... that is pretty clear who was involved and who were the antagonists. Just goes to show how people warp the facts either deliberately or through confusion in times like these... it is there in clear video evidence. Although the same video also shows a saints fan going after one of the Vitesse fans and hurling a chair at him whilst trying to punch him. If they had banning orders before, and have had these reinstated on the back of cctv footage, then I don't really have a lot of sympathy for those particular people. Sorry.

I have only seen skates on the train to London for the FA cup semi final (?) coming. Do not think they exist outside of that. In comparison. More saints fans than West Ham fan's down the bristol pubs for the saints vs west ham game recently.

yes, gutted for Ryan, looked to be a quality player in the making and one of the best in his age group nationally all the way through.. Real shame. Hope he gets better soon!

Only positive sides, saints are experts at mending knee injuries now.

Love the muppets attacking long earlier on this thread. Easily one of our best players. and consistently so.

Pretty ****e so far it has to be said. I don't want to knock pelle because he has done a good job for us... but he should not be in our starting 11 (certainly not on this form)... He is pedestrian, slows down all our play and gives the ball away time and time again... Replace him with Mane or Tadic second half and we'll create so many chances against what is a very below average swansea side.

If it is a scam where people make money from getting others involved and then cashing out... then the mirror are deeply involved http://www.mirror.co.uk/features/football-index-traders-backing-rooney-6662558

I did, than you dig dig

The money seems to have gone crazy lately in the prem.... Vardy signing for 80k per week, Payet getting £125k per week *****il he is 34!). One of those two clubs has already breached FFP, the other will surely breach it now and how are they able to add that much to their wage bills in one chunk? I thought FFP prevents clubs from increasing their wage bill too much in one season?!?! How do we feel as saints fans? I am actually pleased with our wage structure and not having any players on more than 50k (According to FM 2016 granted)... I don't think the money can last forever and we seem to be signing players that are young, try hard and are in it for more than just the money? But can we compete? Everton are about to announce a multi million pound takeover my Americans, West Ham are splashing silly money, as our teams like Newcastle, stoke and Leicester... Where do saints sit within this as I can never see us offering 125k within the next couple of years! And I am pleased about that as well. It is just a total detachment from the modern fan and wrong frankly. Rather than paying that kinda wage they could be dropping ticket prices to £10 for example...

If we have the same number of england under 17 players as Brentford, Ipswich (less than), Hull, West Brom (less than) etc etc etc then something is worrying wrong with the youth setup at that level. That is based on first glance but I expected saints to have a better representation than that. Makes you wonder what is coming through behind calum's lot.

Big vic has been banned for 5 matches (six weeks)... Personally I think this is very over the top although I guess it is the rules. Its never a red card and should be appealed by the club but Wanyama should be warned (by the club) for giving the ref that decision to make in the first place. Updates in the dailFail here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3437845/Victor-Wanyama-ruled-action-six-weeks-red-card.html

Personally, I think they should use the money to expand the stadiums for one year, then drop the prices to £20 a ticket and watch em fill up. Half the market of these games is the fans and the atmosphere... so lets see it...

Charlie Austin fits that rather nicely...

unless he was from senegal it makes sod all difference to me and I will take it with a pinch of salt. Too many regional dialects and pronunciations to count in africa.

city are awful, but the league is going to Leicester or Tottenham for me.

Aware fully that this is just the idealist me speaking but.... Wenger has said that the money will be used on player wages/transfers as the tv deal will push up prices. However that is total ball-arks.... The only league getting this deal is the premier league. Therefore if all clubs turn around and agree to cut their ticket prices by the same percentage then all teams take the same hit to "spending power" (using some of the tv money to look after their fans). This in turn means that their is less money being used to push up prices for wages and transfers. Anything less than this being agree and really all football fans should unite and boycott the games indefinitely as we really are being taken for a ride. Even with the above measure and a cut of say 25% for all teams the new tv deal would still represent and increase in financial muscle for the prem vs any other competitive league (china doesn't count)...

I dont think anyone was calling for his head, just frustrated with the lack of youth players in the team. Thankfully and first and foremost, he has got us winning again, but he has also addressed our issues with Pelle and started playing target and JWP more. Its almost like he reads this forum...

I know I should stop championing random saints players. But Fraser is the best saints keeper we have had during my years of watching... First games in 94...

Kelvin vs Leeds was amazing and got us up... Forster is cracking keeper. As has been said countless times by countless people.... But that kevin performance goes down in the annuls of the clubs history. No doubt whatsoever that it was pivotal in getting us where we are now.

Well its simple really. We are being run sustainably and were sticking to rules that are for all intensive purposes dead dodo's anyway. Whether we change that or not we'll see. I'd add that our model is still solid and no one has a better buy this January other than Austin. But we badly need to improve the youth teams i think.

That goal is better than any scored by the current saints team. Including Martina's

That is all anyone wants to see Fry, wishing something related to Saints does well congrats

You seriously need to learn to make a structure argument... Because you're jut embarrassing yourself with that pile of utter cack... Seager is going to be a very tidy striker of championship level or higher (early days yet)... but for the vast majority of the forum you seem to delight in him not being given a chance or being deemed good enough as yet... Most decent and proper saints fans will look forward to him getting his chance of first team football at crewe and will keep an eye out for his performances... But coming on here with BS like "Obviously he wasn't and so it proved" just cements your place as one of the forum bell ends. ROFL.

Block this idiot.

Pelle to Juventus before Feb surely?