Daft Kerplunk

If he's going to be sacked, next week is absolutely the best time to do t and get a new manager in far quicker than last year's elongated period. If he's lost the players someone needs to go and be replaced before mid June. Definitely no smoke without fire on this one.

Plenty of empty seats for last night's match against Moan Utd but that says as much about them as it does us, both teams less exciting than they have been previously. Reckon season tickets will be down as it's a big financial ask for what's been served up this year and that we lose so many players each season. However good the club think they are at dealing with popular players and managers leaving each season, it is a long way from fun, which is what football is supposed to be.

The only way that this deal will be fully in the interests of the club is if KL makes a minimal amount of profit from the deal (covers the interest of anything that she has given the club) and the majority of the money from the sale goes into the club for further development.

Long will probably go, Puel doesn't play on a way that suits him so he's probably not enjoying playing in it. Rodriguez should probably go as he's not likely to ever recover his form. Tadic might be one to go as well. Seager and Gallagher would probably have been in the running for more than a squad spot if they were going to cut it at the top top level. But they won't be going anywhere although Gallagher might make a decent championship striker. Sims might be okay but he's never going to be that great and hesketh probably won't really impact things that much. That leaves us with Gabbiadini, Austin (who has questionable fitness) and Redmond plus Boufal as our best attacking players. Gabbi needs players in midfield who have the confidence to pass to him far earlier. Whatever happens next season, something needs to change on the goal scoring front. Something surely most people on this forum can easily agree on!

But that year we had to take a gamble to prove something. At the end of last year I'd suggest the board and Les believed their own hype about how great they were at recruiting coaching and playing talent. It was said that Puel had four interviews and was touted as the man who would improve things. As always I don't blame Puel, the board are culpable, probably for being arrogant.

Some good days out but overall boring. The amount of times the stands have been half empty at the end of a match says everything you need to know about the lack of entertainment. At some point the board may remember that football is something that should entertain on some level. It is really not just about winning for fans of clubs like saints but we do expect committed performances and having a go. Many of the good moments this season saw us lose too like the San Siro and Wembley trips. Wouldn't swap them for the world but they weren't successes. C- Significant room for improvement

When we are this **** going forward, hope is all we have so you are right

Takeover imminent then...

Guess if he's not at the player's awards night then it might be more than a rumour perhaps

Football is not genuinely worried about who runs it, it is all about money

With Poch you could see what he was trying to do almost immediately and the players needed to get fit enough to play that way. It was generally a more exciting style. He did have the benefit of not losing so many of the players that had us on the up to that point of course so the core team spirit was there. With Puel, sometimes the football has been good but more often than not, and especially at home it has been dreadful but what are we are trying to be as a team? Poch has a very clear style and this was evident from the beginning when he took us over, I'm not sure what Puel is bringing to us just yet.

Puel being sacked would mean the board admitting they made a mistake. It would be a huge surprise if that happens.

The league is only the guide for how good a team is, and we are distinctly average as a Premier League team this year. How are Watford getting on?

Agree

Is it really nonsense though if we want to be at the top end of the table? MLG, you pride yourself on having decent football knowledge so realistically, do you see any of that next crop (Prowse isn't included as came through under Nigel Adkins) playing to the level needed for the top 8? This is not me having a moan about the academy, far from it, but it is very difficult to continue producing really top players year on year and some periods will produce good, but not outstanding players. I'd say Ronald's view was perfectly reasonable from what I've seen and I've seen a fair number of u23 games live this season.

Pretty fair from what we have seen from the current crop of players on the edge of the first team. Good, but not good enough to be in a team aiming for the top end of the table, however much hype there is. The U23s last night weren't good and that included several players talked about for the first team. This isn't unusual though and we may need to wait awhile until the next bunch come through. In an era of marketing hype, I'm sure the football side of SFC is being honest and realistic and knows that they need far better players to come through if we are to hit the 50% first team squad (competing in or qualifying for European football) made of academy players target.

Irrational overseas investments eh. That rules out football in one clear statement. Football is an ego project for the super rich, not really a rational business in the truest sense. Hopefully here is someone else out there who fancies a dabble in being a super rich premier league team owner.

Hold on to as many players as possible bar the likes of J-Rod who will sadly never return to what he was by the looks of it. Then let Puel do what he was bought here for and develop Hojbjerg into a very good midfielder, get the head and body right of Boufal, get Gabi to be scoring all season and continue developing the other players who fit into his system. I would imagine Les would also want the academy to produce some players more on the level of those who came to the fore or were developed primarily under the previous regimes. The academy must be absolutely key to our business model and needs to produce genuine world class talent if the aim is still European football. Top 8 should be the minimum for this club. Cup runs are a bonus.

Virgin Media sponsor the club, club gets revenue, revenue gets spent on players. That's how it works. Very very simple. Therefore not a con.

If and when (as in this close season or another in the future) VVD leaves us, he should go to one of the great clubs, but, and it is a big but, he could easily end up at Everton if they agree to pay us and him a stonking great fee. From a football perspective he would be daft but agents aren't always motivated by football reasons and neither are the players who 'follow' them and take their advice.

Too quiet, too loud. It's football, it's supposed to be loud and if the fans don't make the noise then the club should. Music choices were excellent yesterday as well, better than the football.

Wonder why nobody is applying the logic to Katharina that is applied to players. If they don't want to be here, let them leave

If we are serious about becoming a 'relative' force in football then European football is a must for the majority of seasons. Unlikely this year as we had too crap a period between October and February but with a reasonably settled squad next year plus some key acquisitions, we could get there for 18/19 and look to maintain it from then on.

Things move on...but not to everyone's taste. The music at the match is not too loud as far as I'm concerned, it's great and could even be louder. It is definitely not as loud as a concert. Not even close. Live music is quite a lot louder than St. Mary's will ever be...apart from when that ex Take That dancer performs there of course As for the Saints Way song, it was created by the players because they wanted to give something to the fans to sing. Does that not say something to our fanbase or is everyone so slow on the uptake? For one thing, it shows they feel part of our club which should be celebrated quite frankly. Also, maybe they want us to make more noise. I'm going to make a very easy guess and suggest the players want us to be louder, more vocal and intimidiating during matches. It might help their performance or keep them going, let them know who they are playing for or that we Saints fans actually give a sh!t. Wembley was amazing. Colourful and noisy, albeit only with one song but I bet the players absolutely loved it and want it more like that every week.

Motion proposed and agreed. Oh, and navy blue shorts would be good.