Morse

Taking off a midfielder for another CB when your opponent is chasing the game, bossing midfielder and launching long balls into your box, is usually a mistake. Yes you've got another body back to defend but little opportunity to stop the assault at source. Today was carbon copy of how England screwed up v Argentina. The relative managers need to grow a pair and remember the best form of defense is attack.

I've clearly missed a meeting along the way, but why is our best keeper not registered in the squad, while we scramble around for an also ran keeper for back up to our second best keeper, and our third choice keeper does what?

Although I would agree with sentiment of your post, didn't Colin Clarke score a hatrick v QPR on his debut?

We could potentially lose 4 regular first team players, a CB, two from midfield, and a striker. That's a spine of a team! Unless they are adequately replaced soon we're going to get more shaftings like last night.

Hasn't he just signed a 2 year extension?

Holding on for a win v Mexico is one thing, holding on v Argentina another. That Tuchel didn't realise that is why were out. If we had pressed forward for a second we'd be in our first WC for 60 years ffs!

At every WC since '82 i could name you upwards of half a dozen people i knew who would be going. This time I dont know a single one.

Sounds like we're getting our ducks in a row, with the mention of Middlesborough connections on the 'independent panel'. Possible legals, or just ammo to blunt their attack.

I was on my evening paper-round delivering the Echo when I heard he signed. Hope he makes a complete recovery.

I voted 'Syrup'. But on reflection why would anyone choose such a weird looking hair piece? There's something 1970's dinner-lady about it.

Its Parsons who should be sacked. Completely fumbled the situation.

I dont buy this 'he embarrassed the club' thing. Nobody outside of Southampton and Middlesbrough gives a shit about this. Once next season is underway it will be old news. Tonda is our best chance of promotion next season, why change?

He's been successful (apart from the amateurish espionage) IF he still commandes the backing of the players I think he should stay. Sacking him would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Nobody beyond Saints fans will remember this spying in 6 months time.

Parsons needs to go. Tonda was stupid, but Parsons is CEO and he should have dealt with the situation a lot, lot better from the off. Letting Middlesborough get a head of steam up in the press unoppossed, and influence the EFL unopposed and trying to appeass Gibson. For the only time ever I wish we had little Nicolas Cortesse back as CEO, he would not have been played like Parsons and we would still be going to Wembley. On another note we must talk about compensation for the fans: Season ticket renewals half price. 25/26 memberships, all 26/27 tickets half price. The club should factor it in as another 'penalty'.

Could work the other way. Most neutrals think our punishment was harsh, and in mitigation Tonda did put his hands up, so the FA make decide we've suffered enough. 12 month suspended penalty. (But who knows, I'm passed trying to second guess these kangaroo courts)

If Tonda still has the backing and respect of the dressing room we would be stupid to sack him. But that's a big 'if'. He has let them down big time.

Tonda/Spores need to go for trying this stunt in the first place. Parsons needs to go for fucking admitting it. Incompetence.

Apart from the disproportionate penalty. Why the fuck have Middlesborough been put through???? Either Hull go up unopposed or Middlesborough should play Wrexham

You would hope

I think we're all in danger of getting as obsessed as Gibson with this issue. We're not getting thrown out, we will be fined, we may get a points deduction for next season. Meanwhile buy your tickets, book your travel and look forward to WEMBLEY!!

Aren't they one of the same?

The recent statement from Middlesboro i think is more about positioning for their inevitable legal action against Saints, than any belief the EFL will do what they want.

Good question, but i think not. They are not the ones on trial. It would be like a victim of burglary appealing if a burger gets off. That doesn't happen.

Surely the thing to do if you're EFL is let the game go ahead. Hull win problem solved, points deduction and fine for us. If we win, and they want us expelled, than Hull go through as beaten finalists.

Having been on the Hull site, I can confirm they are not releasing ticket details until tomorrow. ( they are also saying the ko time is 1.00am which seems a little early !)